The 'Suspend2' project [story] has been renamed to 'TuxOnIce' Nigel Cunningham announced on the lkml, "this is for a couple of reasons: In recent discussions on LKML, the point was made that the word 'Suspend' is confusing. It is used to refer to both suspending to disk and suspending to ram. Life will be simpler if we more clearly differentiate the two. The name Suspend2 came about a couple of years ago when we made the 2.0 release and started self-hosting. If we ever get to a 3.0 release, the name could become even more confusing! (And there are already problems with people confusing the name with swsusp and talking about uswsusp as version 3!)."

Some concern was expressed that this move indicated that the rewritten suspend infrastructure was not being targetted for core inclusion. Nigel explained that this was not the case, "as far as I know, the desire on Rafael's part and mine is still to get at least some of the functionality merged. The only reason this isn't happening yet is that we're both busy with other aspects of the work. Rafael is focussing on infrastructure issues, I'm focussing on minimising the diff and finishing off cleaning up and adding comments to functions." Rafael Wysocki agreed, "my first target is to introduce a framework allowing drivers to have different callbacks for hibernation and suspend. Unfortunately, that turned out to require quite a lot of work - and time - to do."

From:	Nigel Cunningham [email blocked]
To:	LKML [email blocked]
Reply-To:  nigel
Subject: Suspend2 is getting a new name.
Date:	Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:30:56 +1000

Hi all.

Suspend2's name is changing to "TuxOnIce".

This is for a couple of reasons:

In recent discussions on LKML, the point was made that the word "Suspend" is 
confusing. It is used to refer to both suspending to disk and suspending to 
ram. Life will be simpler if we more clearly differentiate the two.

The name Suspend2 came about a couple of years ago when we made the 2.0 
release and started self-hosting. If we ever get to a 3.0 release, the name 
could become even more confusing! (And there are already problems with people 
confusing the name with swsusp and talking about uswsusp as version 3!).

http://www.suspend2.net is still working at the moment, but we'll shift to 
http://www.tuxonice.net over the next while. The wiki and bugzilla are 
already done; email will remain on suspend2.net for a little while and git 
trees will be renamed at the time of the next stable release.

Regards,

Nigel
-- 
See http://www.tuxonice.net for Howtos, FAQs, mailing
lists, wiki and bugzilla info.



From: Satyam Sharma [email blocked]
Cc:	LKML [email blocked]
Subject: Re: Suspend2 is getting a new name.
Date:	Mon, 2 Jul 2007 13:53:43 +0530

[ Shamelessly off-topic, but SCNR myself ]

On 7/2/07, Nigel Cunningham [email blocked] wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Suspend2's name is changing to "TuxOnIce".

Hmm, FunkyMixedCase name ...

<tongue-firmly-in-cheek>
... hope this'll make it work on my laptop too :-)

[ Is there a prize for posting waaay off-topic messages? ]

BTW, TuxOnIce is a better choice for name than some variation of
"Hibernate", from a biological perspective too -- as everybody already
knows, penguins never quite hibernate, but spend the entire rough
Antarctic winter bunched up in a group on the surface (ice) itself ...

Satyam



From:	Bill Davidsen [email blocked]
CC:	LKML [email blocked]
Subject: Re: Suspend2 is getting a new name.
Date:	Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:18:39 -0400

Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> Suspend2's name is changing to "TuxOnIce".
> 
> This is for a couple of reasons:
> 
> In recent discussions on LKML, the point was made that the word "Suspend" is 
> confusing. It is used to refer to both suspending to disk and suspending to 
> ram. Life will be simpler if we more clearly differentiate the two.
> 
> The name Suspend2 came about a couple of years ago when we made the 2.0 
> release and started self-hosting. If we ever get to a 3.0 release, the name 
> could become even more confusing! (And there are already problems with people 
> confusing the name with swsusp and talking about uswsusp as version 3!).
> 
> http://www.suspend2.net is still working at the moment, but we'll shift to 
> http://www.tuxonice.net over the next while. The wiki and bugzilla are 
> already done; email will remain on suspend2.net for a little while and git 
> trees will be renamed at the time of the next stable release.
> 
I guess this is "good news, bad news" time. The good news is that the 
"suspend with working resume" project is still active, the bad news is 
that making provisions for long term out of mainline operation sounds as 
if you have no hope of getting this code into the mainline kernel. :-(

-- 
Bill Davidsen [email blocked]
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot



From:	Nigel Cunningham [email blocked]
To:	Bill Davidsen [email blocked]
Subject: Re: Suspend2 is getting a new name.
Date:	Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:08:26 +1000

Hi.

On Tuesday 03 July 2007 05:18:39 Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> I guess this is "good news, bad news" time. The good news is that the 
> "suspend with working resume" project is still active, the bad news is 
> that making provisions for long term out of mainline operation sounds as 
> if you have no hope of getting this code into the mainline kernel. :-(

Let's not turn this into a flamewar, please. This is just a name change, 
nothing more.

As far as I know, the desire on Rafael's part and mine is still to get at 
least some of the functionality merged. The only reason this isn't happening 
yet is that we're both busy with other aspects of the work. Rafael is 
focussing on infrastructure issues, I'm focussing on minimising the diff and 
finishing off cleaning up and adding comments to functions.

Regards,

Nigel


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From: Rafael J. Wysocki [email blocked]
Subject: Re: Suspend2 is getting a new name.
Date:	Tue, 3 Jul 2007 15:34:05 +0200

Hi,

On Tuesday, 3 July 2007 00:08, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> Let's not turn this into a flamewar, please. This is just a name change, 
> nothing more.
> 
> As far as I know, the desire on Rafael's part and mine is still to get at 
> least some of the functionality merged. The only reason this isn't happening 
> yet is that we're both busy with other aspects of the work. Rafael is 
> focussing on infrastructure issues, I'm focussing on minimising the diff and 
> finishing off cleaning up and adding comments to functions.

That's correct, thanks for saying this!

My first target is to introduce a framework allowing drivers to have different
callbacks for hibernation and suspend.   Unfortunately, that turned out to
require quite a lot of work - and time - to do.

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
"Premature optimization is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth

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