Theodore Ts'o announced that the 2007 Linux Kernel Summit will be moved from its usual location in Ottawa, Canada, taking place this year in Cambridge, England. Ted described the move as a one-time experiment to be re-evaluated at a future date to see if it's worth moving the Kernel Summit to other locations in the future. He noted, "I understand that if it were only up to us developers, we'd want to have the conference in Honolulu, or perhaps in Australia or New Zealand. Unfortunately there are other stakeholers and other financial realities involved." Regarding this year's summit, Ted explained:
"This year, the Kernel Summit will be held in Cambridge, England, at the DeVere University Arms Hotel, September 5-6 (with a welcome reception on the 4th). The decision to move the Kernel Summit to England is a one-year experiment based on the very strong request of last year's kernel summit attendees to try a location outside of Ottawa, and especially from the roughly 1/3rd of the attendees that come from the UK or Europe. So the plan is for us to book the Ottawa Congress Ceter space for July 2008 (which we will need to do by mid-year 2007), and pending how well the Cambridge venue works out in September 2007, we'll figure out how often we want to try moving the Kernel Summit to other locations in future years beyond 2008."
From: Theodore Ts'o [email blocked] To: linux-kernel, [email blocked] Subject: 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 02:09:17 -0500 Hi folks, It's time to start kicking off the 2007 Kernel Summit planning process. This year, the Kernel Summit will be held in Cambridge, England, at the DeVere University Arms Hotel, September 5-6 (with a welcome reception on the 4th). The decision to move the Kernel Summit to England is a one-year experiment based on the very strong request of last year's kernel summit attendees to try a location outside of Ottawa, and especially from the roughly 1/3rd of the attendees that come from the UK or Europe. So the plan is for us to book the Ottawa Congress Ceter space for July 2008 (which we will need to do by mid-year 2007), and pending how well the Cambridge venue works out in September 2007, we'll figure out how often we want to try moving the Kernel Summit to other locations in future years beyond 2008. (It'd be great to fantasize pairing the Kernel Summit with Linux.conf.au, but unless we can get some sponsor's CEO offers up their personal jet, or we pick up a major airline as a sponsor, it's not likely to happen any time soon due to the reality of corporate travel budgets. :-) As in previous years, I've set up a e-mail discussion list for people who are interested in making suggestions for this year's kernel summit. In the probably hopeless attempt to avoid the list address getting instantly harvested by spammers from all of the LKML archives, the list submission address and subscription URL can be found by executing the following perl script: #!/usr/bin/perl $at="@"; $AD=(gmtime(time))[5]+1900; print "ksummit-" . $AD . "-discuss" . $at . "thunk.org\n"; print "http://thunk.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-" . $AD . "-discuss\n"; More announcements about the topic and attendee selection process will be made in the next week or so on the discuss list, but in the meantime, if there are any folks who are interested in putting together mini-summits or workshops for various kernel subsystems at Ottawa on the 25th or 26th, please let me know. It may be possible for Usenix to make some hotel conference rooms available, to provide an opportunity for kernel development teams who want to get together before OLS and the Kernel Summit to do so. Finally, let me introduce to this year's program committee: Jens Axboe James Bottomley Jonathon Corbet Dirk Hohndel Gerrit Huizenga Dave Jones Andi Kleen Greg Kroah-Hartman Steve Hemminger Matthew Mackall Andrew Morton Theodore Ts'o If you have any questions, please feel to contact me or the entire kernel summit program committee. Our contact e-mail address can be found by taking the output from the above perl script and running it through the command: "sed -e 's/discuss/pc/'". Regards, - Ted
From: Christoph Hellwig [email blocked] Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:07:11 +0100 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 02:09:17AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > Hi folks, > > It's time to start kicking off the 2007 Kernel Summit planning > process. This year, the Kernel Summit will be held in Cambridge, > England, at the DeVere University Arms Hotel, September 5-6 (with a > welcome reception on the 4th). The decision to move the Kernel Summit > to England is a one-year experiment based on the very strong request of > last year's kernel summit attendees to try a location outside of Ottawa, > and especially from the roughly 1/3rd of the attendees that come from > the UK or Europe. So the plan is for us to book the Ottawa Congress > Ceter space for July 2008 (which we will need to do by mid-year 2007), Very strong please no from me. Please move it around to different venues, if needed in north america again. kernel summit shouldn't be a marketing add-on but something on it's own. While we're at it it would be nice to get rid of all that usenix and sponsors that get a seat baggage aswell, especially as we've proven that all small on-topic conferences without that overhead are a lot more productive.
From: Alan Cox [email blocked] Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:45:02 -0500 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 12:07:11PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > process. This year, the Kernel Summit will be held in Cambridge, > > England, at the DeVere University Arms Hotel, September 5-6 (with a > > welcome reception on the 4th). The decision to move the Kernel Summit > > to England is a one-year experiment based on the very strong request of > > last year's kernel summit attendees to try a location outside of Ottawa, > > and especially from the roughly 1/3rd of the attendees that come from > > the UK or Europe. So the plan is for us to book the Ottawa Congress > > Ceter space for July 2008 (which we will need to do by mid-year 2007), Ditto.. Definitely disagree with that. I'd like to see the conference somewhere else different this time - perhaps Czech Republic, or somewhere else more easterly and Linux active (or even Finland...) > While we're at it it would be nice to get rid of all that usenix Well if you want to organise and fund it yourself 8)
From: Theodore Tso [email blocked] Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:14:17 -0500 On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 07:45:02AM -0500, Alan Cox wrote: > > Definitely disagree with that. I'd like to see the conference somewhere > else different this time - perhaps Czech Republic, or somewhere else more > easterly and Linux active (or even Finland...) > Understand that one of the feedback that I get from the keepers of the corporate travel budgets is that money for sending employees to exotic locations is finite --- which is why we haven't tried pairing the kernel summit with linux.conf.au. Cambridge works out because there are relatively cheap flights to Amsterdam and then you can take a cheap Ryan Air flight to Stanisted. Still, the fact that it isn't paired with another conference means that we are getting some expressions of unhappiness from other Kernel Summit stakeholders. It's for that reason that (a) I'm trying to line up some folks who might be interested in trying to put together a relatively small, 2-day technical conference after the Kernel Summit, which can hopefully serve as a seed for something like OLS and LCA in UK/Europe, and (b) I've told folks that the moving it away from Cambridge is a one-time experiment, after which point we will re-evaluate. I understand that if it were only up to us developers, we'd want to have the conference in Honolulu, or perhaps in Australia or New Zeland. Unfortunately there are other stakeholers and other financial realities involved. > > While we're at it it would be nice to get rid of all that usenix > > Well if you want to organise and fund it yourself 8) The sponsors help pay for the conference venue, as well as travel scholoarships for those people who don't have corporate affiliations, or whose companies refuse to pay their travel, and who were important that they be there. One of my concerns is if we have too many kernel developers where their employes refuse to pay travel, we won't have enough travel scholoarship money. It's a somewhat tricky balancing act. - Ted
From: Alan [email blocked] Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:34:50 +0000 > hopefully serve as a seed for something like OLS and LCA in UK/Europe, > and (b) I've told folks that the moving it away from Cambridge is a > one-time experiment, after which point we will re-evaluate. Perhaps that will work out for the best, it may be the right answer long term is to alternate anyway ?
can u fix it so that the
can u fix it so that the displayed email thread isn't chopped off on the right. It's pretty much useless as is. I'm using seamonkey 1.0.7
No, please do not re-line
No, please do not re-line wrap the emails. It's fine how it is.
new layout problems
no, it's not "fine how it is", but i agree with your sentiment that the emails should be kept as is (assuming jeremy is not already reformatting them from their original form).
i use firefox on large monitors (1600x1200 & 1440x900), and normally maximized, so i never noticed the problem, but i resized the window to something closer to 500 pixels in width, and the right-hand column covered up the right-side of the fixed-width emails.
i think that it would be preferred that at those low resolutions (yes, it's probably not the norm, but...) that the right-hand column go under, not above, the fixed-width emails. the article content (and comments) is primary, the stuff in the right-hand column is secondary, so primary stuff should overlay secondary stuff when necessary.
just my opinion, not that i expect kerneltrap to accommodate it.