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Feature: OpenBSD Hackathon 2005, Part III

July 6, 2005 - 2:45pm
Submitted by Jeremy on July 6, 2005 - 2:45pm.
OpenBSD feature article

One new attendee of this year's OpenBSD hackathon was Fernando Gont, a diverse individual from Argentina whose current job titles include teacher, technical writer, system administrator and network researcher. His presence at the hackathon was the result of an internet-draft he wrote about some flaws in the ICMP protocol, flaws he discovered while writing the "Security Considerations" of a different internet-draft titled "TCP's reaction to soft errors" for the IPv6 Operations working group. In researching that earlier draft, he considered various attacks against TCP using ICMP error messages, and proposed some extra validation that could be done as prevention. Following up, Fernando reviewed the IETF specifications for ICMP and TCP and was surprised to discover that they didn't propose similar validation checks, ultimately deciding to write his latest internet-draft highlighting the security impact.

Fernando was interested in discussing the ideas with his peers, but was concerned about vendors trying to patent his suggested fixes. He'd read some comments by OpenBSD creator Theo de Raadt [interview] which led him to believe that he could safely talk with Theo about his ICMP discoveries. Theo was impressed by the ideas, and as Fernando was already heading to BSDCan, Theo helped arrange for him to stay in Canada longer to attend CanSecWest and the OpenBSD hackathon. At the hackathon, Fernando worked around the clock to implement some of his suggested fixes into the OpenBSD networking stack, during which time I spoke with him.

The ICMP flaw is in the design of the protocol, not in any specific implementation. Theo explains, "here we have a 20 year old protocol, a part of the Internet infrastructure that hasn't been touched in 10 years and we were all sure was right, and now is cast in doubt." He went on to add, "these things have to be done carefully. We can't ignore the problem, which is what the IETF and the other vendors are telling us to do."


Three Blind ICMP Attacks:
Fernando stressed that the issues in ICMP are with the specification itself, "this makes the problem more important because it affects everyone, not just one implementation from a programmer mistake." He goes on to point out that the problem won't truly be fixed until the IETF specification themselves are fixed, as it is from these specifications that vendors implement their systems. "Most vendors have, are, or will be implementing the recommended counter-measures in the near future," Fernando acknowledges, "however, vendors have not bothered to participate in the relevant IETF working group to update the existing specifications." Thus Fernando is concerned that future implementations will continue to be made following these outdated and now known-to-be-flawed specifications.

All three ICMP flaws can be exploited without sniffing network traffic, and do not require a "man in the middle". Unlike the earlier "slipping in the window" TCP reset attack [story], these ICMP-based TCP attacks don't require an attacker to guess a correct TCP sequence number, making it simpler to disrupt network traffic. As a brief overview, the three flaws are:

  1. Blind connection reset attack: an attacker can generate a "hard" ICMP error to remotely tear down an existing connection.
  2. Blind throughput reduction: an attacker can generate ICMP errors that repeatedly trigger source quenching, thereby reducing the throughput of the connection.
  3. Blind performance degrading attack: an attacker can use ICMP packets to trick Path MTU discovery into reducing the size of each sent packet down to only 68 bytes.

"Hard" ICMP Errors:
The ICMP protocol was first defined in RFC 792, published in September of 1981. Referring to TCP connections, ICMP errors are classified as either "hard" or "soft". A "hard" error results in the TCP connection being torn down, much the same as if a RST packet was received. There are three ICMP type 3 'destination unreachable' errors that are defined in RFC 1122 as hard errors. Code 2, 'protocol unreachable', code 3, 'port unreachable', and possibly code 4, 'fragmentation needed and don't fragment bit set' are all hard errors that if received can cause a TCP stack to tear down an existing connection. (Code 4 is only a 'hard' error if Path MTU discovery is not implemented.)

Other ICMP errors are considered "soft" errors. "Soft" errors are reported to the application affected, but the connection continues. Fernando's solution for the "hard" ICMP error flaw is to simply treat them like "soft" ICMP errors. "If treated that way," he said, "the stack becomes immune to the problem." As to why the ICMP stack was designed this way in the first place, "the basic idea of hard errors was to avoid keeping TCP connections from retrying and retrying lots of times," Fernando explained. "Maybe it made sense many years ago when you didn't have the processing power you have now, but these days there is no problem with just letting the TCP connection eventually timeout when there is a legitimate network problem."

Source Quenching:
ICMP type 4 code 0 packets are defined as "source quench" messages. When a router between two endpoints or the remote endpoint itself begins to run out of buffer space for processing incoming packets, it can send a source quench ICMP packet to the endpoint from where the traffic originated. As defined in RFC 792, when an endpoint receives a source quench packet it should slow the rate at which it is sending out packets. After ten minutes, the endpoint should gradually increase the rate at which it's sending packets up to the original rate.

Fernando's paper points out that source quench messages can also be abused. If the messages are spoofed at a high enough rate, a TCP connection can be slowed to a crawl. "While this would not reset the connection," Fernando explained, "it would certainly degrade the performance of the data transfer taking place." Fortunately the solution is simple he goes on to explain, "you can just completely disable ICMP source quenching for TCP because the TCP protocol has its own handling for these conditions, and routers, as specified by RFC 1812, should not be sending source quench packets either."

Path MTU Discovery
IP sessions are composed of many packets. The largest size of each of these packets is known as the maximum transmission unit, or MTU, and ideally it's sized for maximum throughput. If packets are too large, there's extra overhead for routers in between the endpoints that have to break the large packets into smaller fragments, and again overhead for the final endpoint that has to reassemble the fragments back into the original packets. If packets are too small, there's extra overhead creating and processing all the additional smaller packets. Additional research into the potential problems of fragmentation can be found in the 1987 paper "Fragmentation considered harmful" and the more recent "Fragmentation considered very harmful" from 2004. Thus, it's important to configure your endpoints to use an appropriate MTU, usually the maximum packet size that doesn't require fragmentation.

Path MTU Discovery is defined in RFC 1191, and is a technique using ICMP packets to dynamically discover the maximum transmission unit of an arbitrary internet path. Essentially PMTU works by beginning with sending large packets with the "don't fragment" bit set in the IP header. The "don't fragment" bit tells routers along the way that the data payload of the packet shouldn't be broken into smaller pieces. If a router receives the packet and finds it is too big to forward, it will drop the packet and reply to the original host with an ICMP error stating "packet too large and don't fragment bit set". Additionally, RFC 1191 defines the use of a header field to specify the MTU of the hop that generated the ICMP error. The originating host lowers the size of the packet to this MTU and tries again. The process continues until the packet successfully reaches the destination endpoint. In this way, the host is able to discover the best possible MTU for the current internet path.

In Fernando's 3'rd ICMP attack, ICMP error packets are spoofed saying "packet too large and don't fragment bit set", causing the endpoint to reduce the size of its packet to a smaller than optimal size, as small as 68 bytes. RFC 1812 specifies that once a system has reduced the Path MTU, it will leave it at the reduced size for ten minutes before it tries increasing it again, thus a sustained attack only requires the sending of one packet every ten minutes. With the increased number of smaller packets, the interrupt rate increases on both the client and the server, degrading the performance of both systems. One of the most susceptible systems to this type of attack are BGP routers, which require maintaining long TCP sessions with high data throughput. As this doesn't cause the session to abort, it's much more difficult to detect and can result in very slow data transmissions.

The solution for this third attack is more complex than for the earlier types of attacks. Essentially, Fernando's solution is to delay the processing of the ICMP error messages. Instead of immediately reducing the MTU when a "packet too large and don't fragment bit" ICMP error is received, the system can simply remember that it received the packet and wait for an appropriate amount of time before acting on it. The appropriate amount of time depends on the network and is thus dynamically calculated, but essentially it is the average amount of time taken for a packet to make a round trip between the two endpoints, multiplied by a factor. If during that time you receive a delivery acknowledgment for the same packet that you also received an ICMP error, you know that the ICMP error wasn't real and thus can safely be ignored. Alternatively, if after that amount of time no acknowledgment is received then you can act appropriately on the ICMP error, reducing the MTU.

Additional generic countermeasure:
In addition to the first two countermeasures mentioned above, and inherently part of the third countermeasure, it is also possible to generically defend against ICMP attacks on TCP sessions by verifying the TCP sequence number of the packet contained within an ICMP error. This works because all ICMP error packets are required to contain the IP header and at least 8 more bytes of the packet that caused the error in the first place. In the case of TCP packets, these 8 bytes include the TCP sequence number, and thus this sequence number can be compared against the active session that generated the packet. If the sequence number is not within the sequence number window [story], the ICMP error is obviously not real and can be safely ignored. Evidently many vendors did not provide even this amount of prevention, which is why the ICMP issues described in Fernando's paper are so easy to exploit. While sequence number validation is a useful preventative measure, it is not enough by itself. Fernando notes, "it may serve as a counter-measure nowadays, but if in the future we begin to use larger windows, we will be facing the same problem again." He points to the earlier discussed counter-measures as the appropriate complete solution to the problem.

The politics of vulnerabilities:
Once Fernando understood the vulnerabilities he'd found in the ICMP protocol, he began to try and safely report the problem so that it could be fixed in the many ICMP implementations that comprise the Internet. To begin, he wrote an internet draft which he submitted to the IETF in August of 2004. At that time he contacted CERT/CC and NISCC, and privately notified several open source projects including OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD and Linux, as well as larger vendors such as Microsoft, Cisco, and Sun Microsystems. He described to each the vulnerabilities to give them an opportunity to address the issues before they became public.

Around this same time, Fernando began receiving emails from Cisco who had numerous technical questions about his solutions to the problems. He continued to reply thoroughly to all their questions, until two months later when he received an email from Cisco's lawyer claiming that Cisco held a patent on his work. He asked their lawyer for specifics, but they refused to reveal any details. For two more months this continued, until Fernando was cc'd on an email thread between Cisco, Linus Torvalds, and David Miller. Reading back through the thread, Fernando found where David Miller had asked Cisco how they could possibly patent sequence tracking as Linux had been doing it for many years, and later in the same thread Cisco noted that they had withdrawn their patent. Fernando found the experience frustrating, "a third party knew what it was all about before I did. One would expect the person who discovered the vulnerability to be the most involved, but that didn't happen. To this day I still don't know exactly what the patent was about, I'm only guessing it was about TCP sequence tracking based on the email thread I read."

While the patent issue was happening with Cisco, CERT/CC created a mailing list to allow vendors to communicate amongst themselves about the newly discovered vulnerability. "They blamed me for submitting my work," Fernando said in exasperation. "One of Cisco's managers of PSIRT said I was cooperating with terrorists, because a terrorist could have gotten the information in the paper I wrote!" Fernando was familiar with intellectual property arguments with last year's Slipping In The Window paper, so he had intentionally publicly published his findings to prevent it from being patented. "Then they accused me of working with terrorists, and even still tried to patent my work!" He noted that he now suspected had he actually worked exclusively with Cisco as they had requested, they probably would have managed to patent all of his ideas. "I decided to work this issue with NISCC, as they were much more responsive. But Cisco wanted me to work with Cert/CC. And as I didn't, maybe our relationship was harder than it should have been."

Fernando also found Microsoft difficult to work with. "Microsoft's acknowledgment policy says that you must report the issues to them 'confidentially'", he explained. As he chose to contact CERT and various open source projects as well, he claimed that they refused to give him credit for the discovery. Only with much effort did he finally get them to acknowledge that he had discovered the issue.

The actual disclosure of the ICMP issue was an adventure in itself, delayed multiple times. It was originally planned to be disclosed in January of 2005, but was repeatedly delayed until April 12'th because many of the bigger vendors weren't ready yet with fixes. Fernando acknowledged, "CERTs don't have many choices here. They get paid for providing a so-called 'responsible disclosure' process. Suppose that they disclosed a security issue while Cisco or Microsoft were still vulnerable. Do you think they would keep their jobs if the bad guys began to attack the Cisco and Microsoft systems based on the information published by CERTs?" He went on to note, "I don't know what the community could do to educate vendors," suggesting that perhaps the public disclosure should happen no matter what after a couple of months of being announced privately. "Maybe after being hit by the media several times, then the big vendors would learn that they must become more responsive."

Fernando went on to point out that from his experience vendors seem to be more concerned about who gets credit for finding a flaw, rather than about actually fixing it. Fernando explained, "Cisco was worried about not giving me credit because they claimed to have been working on the problem for four years. They offered to set up a meeting with some people of Cisco Argentina to show me documentation that would prove they had been working on the Path MTU Discovery attack for more than a year. It didn't happen. Of course, that's ironic, as in the same way I could fake a document and say that I have been working on my draft privately for ten years. On the other hand, if it were true, then it would mean that Cisco takes about two years to address these issues. I would be concerned about this if I were one of their customers."

One week prior to the eventual discloser, Fernando received a call from the CTO of Cisco Argentina who asked him for a copy of his resume. "He said he wanted to have a meeting with me, telling me they might have a job for me," Fernando shrugged. "The meeting was delayed a few times, then I never heard from him again. I wouldn't have thought much of it, but I mentioned it to other people and it turns out they'd had similar experiences. It seems this is a common practice for Cisco to offer someone work in the hopes you'll not talk to the media when the security issues are disclosed."

Conclusion:
Following the public disclosure of Fernando's findings, the media began to discuss the flaws in ICMP. "Instead of contacting at least NISCC, or myself, they contacted the affected parties," Fernando explained. "For example, ZD-NET contacted Microsoft and thus came to the conclusion that there was no problem, that the only way for the attack to work was for the attacker to sniff traffic on the network. This isn't true! It seems the reporters hadn't even read the draft and thus didn't understand what is wrong with ICMP. What's even worse, it seems that they nor the contact at Microsoft realize what the word 'blind' means in each of the attacks." As discussed earlier, due to the fact that most vendors didn't even check the TCP sequence number of packets within ICMP errors, an attacker could blindly spoof ICMP errors and thus trivially exploit these vulnerabilities.

The issues affecting the ICMP protocol are legitimate, and will need to be dealt with by all vendors and open source groups. Fernando told me that Linux quickly implemented the counter measure for ICMP Source Quench upon receiving his internet draft, and had already been working on prevention for blind connection reset attacks and on TCP sequence checking. He reported that FreeBSD also had been working on a counter-measure for blind connection reset attacks, and that they removed Source Quench processing and added additional TCP sequence checking upon receiving his internet draft. As far as Fernando is aware, NetBSD has not acted on his internet draft, and is thus still vulnerable.

As for OpenBSD, they were already working on implementing the counter measure for blind connection reset attacks. "In August of 2004," Fernando said, "Markus Friedl implemented the TCP sequence check in OpenBSD following my report." He went on to discuss efforts at the recent Hackathon in Calgary, "at the hackathon, Chad Loder and I worked with Markus to implement the counter-measure for ICMP Source Quench attacks, then we began to work on the counter-measure for the Path MTU Discovery attack." The PMTUD fix was the last to be merged, on June 30'th, so now all ICMP fixes are in the OpenBSD -current source tree and will be part of OpenBSD 3.8. Regarding the PMTUD fix, Fernando notes, "other projects said they liked the idea, but wanted to hear about experiments with it. OpenBSD decided to implement it because it was clear to the project that it was the only definitive solution to the problem. This is a clear example of what being proactive is about: fixing problems before you really face them."


  • OpenBSD Hackathon, Part I
  • OpenBSD Hackathon, Part II
  • "diverse individual"?

    July 7, 2005 - 1:55am
    Will (not verified)

    A "diverse individual"?

    this aint new. there's tools

    July 7, 2005 - 7:11am
    oldshit (not verified)

    this aint new. there's tools on the wild since 1997/98 that use 'hard' icmp errors to fsck connections... the mtu and the source quench isnt a new concept either, i dont see a reason for all this hype and stress. these are known problems, anyone with knowledge of icmp did put 1 and 1 together...

    OLD

    July 7, 2005 - 10:58am
    T (not verified)

    Yeah, no kidding. We used to use this on irc all the time in 97.

    Old? Yes and no

    July 7, 2005 - 2:31pm
    Christopher Columbus (not verified)

    You used it against windows, as a "windows nuke".
    Not as a general protocol flaw.

    And, most importantly: did you figure out how to fix it?

    And yes

    July 15, 2005 - 5:55am
    Deelight (not verified)

    Yes it was a general protocal flaw.
    Theses programs had to send thousands of forged packet to cause a connection drop (they needed to guess the TCP port used on the client side).

    What's "known"? When 99% o

    July 7, 2005 - 2:28pm
    Christopher Columbus (not verified)

    What's "known"?

    When 99% of the existing implementations are vulnerable to these issues, this may or may not be "known", but it's worth the stress, anyway.

    Connection-reset attacks were known as "IRC nukes", not as a general protocol flow.
    Source Quenches were known to open the door to attack.. but nobody fixed it.
    The Path-MTU attack was even suggested in the original Path-MTU specification. Yet, nobody cared or figured out how to mitigate the impact of the attack.

    Regardless of how old or new you consider these issues, they are still current.

    And, by the way, there are lots of people that suggest that it was already known before Columbus. Why do we give the credit to him? - Because he is the one that made this issues known to the world.

    What?

    July 7, 2005 - 3:23pm
    Anonümous (not verified)

    You're saying that Columbus knew about ICMP-abuses? You lost me there - how is that even possible?

    Sorry. I meant: Some people

    July 7, 2005 - 8:21pm
    Christopher Columbus (not verified)

    Sorry. I meant:
    Some people argue that it was known even before Columbus that the Earth was round. (And maybe that's true).
    Why people gives credit to Columbus for that of "the Earth being round"? Because it was him that raised awareness about that on the masses.

    Replace Cisco router with dedicated OpenBSD setup.

    July 7, 2005 - 10:58pm

    So far for the masses, what did they know anyway; it's the religious lunatics who had a hard time explaining why he didn't fall off the planet. Probably they (undoubtedly the pope and his vatican whorehouse) had more information than him on the whole matter, at least until they found safe places to hide or burn it. Because that's what religious lunatics do. They replace 'truth' with 'Truth' and are then all smug about it, not unlike the corporations in this whole ICMP story. Once again appallingly proven that money is a religion and you better put yours on open/free (semantics, semantics) source software.

    I'm not a naive person, yet it never seizes to amaze me how the behaviour of some of the corporations involved can be so shockingly low.

    So far for the masses, what

    March 24, 2007 - 10:54pm
    Anonymous (not verified)

    So far for the masses, what did they know anyway; it's the religious lunatics who had a hard time explaining why he didn't fall off the planet.

    This meme (that people before Columbus thought the Earth was flat) is a remarkably persistent piece of misinformation.

    There's no need for arguing.

    July 8, 2005 - 1:47am
    Anonümous (not verified)

    There's no need for arguing. Many savants knew that the earth is round - that's fact. What they didn't know - and what was heavily discussed in the 12th century and before (long before columbus), was whether there is life on the other side of the world. The argument against it was that everything would fall "downwards". But even back then some considered that gravity doesn't go in only one direction, but always goes towards the center of the earth. I think you are confusing this with whether the earth revolves around the sun or the other way round. But Columbus didn't have much to do with that.

    Sorry, but people in Columbus

    July 9, 2005 - 11:30pm
    rs (not verified)

    Sorry, but people in Columbus' time (and before) knew that the
    earth is round; his arguments with his contemporaries concerned
    how far around the earth (i.e., how many degrees) he'd have to
    go in order to reach India (and on this he cheated a little, to make
    the venture seem plausible - we owe him for this bit of cheating,
    among other things). The idea that people used to believe the
    earth is flat was widely promulgated in the 19th century. There is
    a good (and relatively short and thoroughly documented) book on
    this by the historian J. B. Russell.

    Columbus knew shit

    July 7, 2005 - 10:12pm

    Hah, Columbus. That moron couldn't even set his destination address properly. Let alone source route his way out of a paper bag.

    its called hyperbole

    July 7, 2005 - 10:14pm

    this is so hilarious!

    yup!! coloumbus had a laptop

    July 12, 2005 - 5:08am
    Anonymous1 (not verified)

    yup!! coloumbus had a laptop while travelling in the seas and as he was reaching america most of the time he faced several network problems because the Indians living there used their laptops to exploit these ICMP flaws ........ a big story actually.........

    Really? It's old news? Then

    July 7, 2005 - 4:54pm
    Anonymousasdf (not verified)

    Really? It's old news? Then why hasn't anyone documented it to this length or brought it to anyones attention? For that matter, why didn't you?

    Why didn't I report it?

    July 8, 2005 - 12:48am
    Stephen Samuel (not verified)

    Because I hadn't completed the Patent application yet. Procrastination is such a killer.

    About the vendors, most of th

    July 7, 2005 - 7:35am
    Anonymousaaaaaaaaa (not verified)

    About the vendors, most of them alway know how to make profits, and will forget the FOSS contribution.

    Shame on them!!!

    English isn't my native langu

    July 7, 2005 - 12:24pm
    Anonümous (not verified)

    English isn't my native language. Could you please repeat that for me, because I didn't understand it. Thank you very much.

    About the vendors, most of th

    July 7, 2005 - 5:17pm
    Anonymouss (not verified)

    About the vendors, most of them alway know how to make profits, and will forget the FOSS contribution.

    Shame on them!!!

    In regards to the vendors. Most of the them only know how to make a profit, forgetting the FOSS contribution.

    Shame on them!

    apparently

    July 8, 2005 - 5:48pm
    Anonymouss (not verified)

    it is not his either.

    seq no's

    July 8, 2005 - 4:22am
    ddx (not verified)

    The proposed solutions feels much like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Not adhering to ICMP errors and letting connections time out instead? That would be unacceptable for many products, and probably leaves new opportunities for DoS attacks.

    As someone said above, at least the connection dropping attack has been in public use for many years. I thought it was agreed that the best cure was simple checking that the sequence numbers match, making the attack extremely difficult if not impossible.

    Doesn't Linux already check this? Is it not enough to mitigate the attacks? Why?

    Yes, itoo does not understand

    July 8, 2005 - 8:48am
    Anonymous-666 (not verified)

    I'm trying to exploit this attack, and ask myself how it can succeed when the sequence number is not known (and when one consider that the operating system verify this).

    Is there any link that talks in details this "vulnerability" ?

    seq no's, you obviously ha

    July 8, 2005 - 9:36am
    drencher (not verified)

    seq no's,

    you obviously have not read teh article...

    " Fernando told me that Linux quickly implemented the counter measure for ICMP Source Quench upon receiving his internet draft, and had already been working on prevention for blind connection reset attacks and on TCP sequence checking. He reported that FreeBSD also had been working on a counter-measure for blind connection reset attacks, and that they removed Source Quench processing and added additional TCP sequence checking upon receiving his internet draft. As far as Fernando is aware, NetBSD has not acted on his internet draft, and is thus still vulnerable."

    geeboos..

    seq no's, you obviously ha

    July 11, 2005 - 4:17am
    ddx (not verified)

    I did read the article, that's why I was asking: In my knowledge this checking was made years ago. So what are these new checks doing? And why did the OpenBSD team make those extra countermeasures, which seems to me like they may have bad side effects? Or did I misunderstand that part?

    About patents...

    July 10, 2005 - 4:35am
    raboof (not verified)

    Fernando was interested in discussing the ideas with his peers, but was concerned about vendors trying to patent his suggested fixes

    This might seem to indicate that publishing your discovery puts it at risk of being patented. This is not true: in fact, once your idea is `out in the open', no-one can patent it anymore[1].

    What Fernando was concerned about is revealing his idea to specific vendors without (yet) releasing it to the public. Even then (at least in the US, in the EU this is slightly more complicated) the vendors don't have the right to patent it, but it'll be extremely hard (and expensive) to enforce that.

    [1] though in the US there's a 1-year `grace period' where the inventor may patent his idea even after publication. Such a period does not exist in, for example, Europe.

    By the way, note that implementations of some of the problems raised here are widely available in the dsniff package.

    (Fernando and the author seem to understand this, but i felt some clarification might be useful for the readers)

    this is old stuff

    July 10, 2005 - 7:11pm
    sander (not verified)

    this is really old stuff back in 96/97 common for irc "takeovers" everybody used the hard icmp bug, there were simply windows tools for it i just nuked all tcp with icmp packets ports from 1024 till 65555 or something.

    this was allready documented years ago seems like obsd wants to put it self in the picture again.., fixes are there simply by disable icmp :)

    You obviously don't know much

    July 10, 2005 - 7:56pm
    tool (not verified)

    You obviously don't know much about networking, ICMP is a required protocol, you can't just disable it. Unless you want problems.

    Reply to Comment

    August 23, 2005 - 7:23pm
    Chuck (not verified)

    " ICMP is a required protocol" for what? Microsoft ping? I think you needed to put a little more information in here.

    Yes, there are some things that need icmp and special access-lists can be created to allow those particular icmp packets to swirl around the network; however, you can get away with blocking icmp on the network. We do it for vpn users since they typically have virus infected machines :)

    Cheers,
    Chuck

    icmp

    July 11, 2005 - 4:17am
    dandic (not verified)

    Disabling ICMP severly cripples the network. It is not something you would want to do.

    Indeed, I do see it done sometimes as I do a bit of network troubleshooting in my job. This is mostly related to MTU problems and some applications starts having performance problems.

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