I wonder if this is a M$ sympathizer troll trying to get apparent Linux supporters to engage in something that will not look that good for Linux. Maybe that is why there are not many answers to this.
Companies are adopting Linux mostly because of uptime. Linux uptime will win in a fist fight with M$ security susceptibility and crashes. You can trust Unix/Linux with big money transactions, but it is a lot more risky using M$ for that. So even with threat of litigation, companies are more and more taking that risk so they don't have to take the security and downtime risk of M$. That is where the figurative fist fight is, and that is where Linus/Linux wins.
Hi, I approached linux with an open mind. Linux is ok for web serving, or proxy, but it is useless as a desktop. It is useless in terms of software and hardware compatibility and there is no standard with numerous differences between distros. It still hasn't approached windows 3.1 in terms of ease of use for the average user. Why don't the linux nerds (I use the words nerds because nerds are out of touch with the majority) make a gui interface like apple has done? OSX proves that just like Windows, their makers have realised the true power of an OS lies with the way it interacts with the user. Why someone hasn't ported the osx gui code to linux I'll never know. I bet the linux nerds are devoting their lives to proving how insecure windows is rather than improving linux. And linux has security flaws but with so few people using it, who would bother trying to hack a linux box?
LOL - doubt they really care that much. Of course when yer at the top you can only go down (see In the Beginning Was the Command Line) - Neal Stephenson - good points on MS futures.
I don't think RMS would engage in a fist-fight. He would not seemingly want to descend from his ivory tower to that level -- just kidding (sort of)
or did you mistype "Linux" when you meant to type "FreeBSD"?
Linux is a joke... its a hobbiests joke that will be dead in a decade.
What uptime? Do you bother looking at forums? Linux boxes are rebooted ALL THE TIME now due to the fallout of common sense from the Linux community and adoption of crap hacks and bandages instead of engineered and well thought out components, abstraction layers, and lets not forget GOOD CODING.
Aah, but you fail to see how FreeBSD lacks support for hardware, for
example. In fact, it lacks all diversity. So it's like a straight-jacket
but not as comfortable.
Interesting... guess you missed out on who's using Linux...I agree it could be gone in a decade, mainly cause by then it won't have very far to unless it becomes a microkernel or external os and joins the *largely* false grid charge....
It does have a far greater chance of mutating into the next techno level than corp ventures like Windows... I mean really ... so who's gonna provide the true 3D desktop (not that we *need* it) or voice interface or an interface like Tommy Cruz used in Minority Report...
Not that we need that stuff... but the semblence of techno advance is intrinsic to our conception of the march of civilization and who really *needs* most of the stuff anyway...
But to the point...hobby code... umm no... you are misinformed. I personally know many in the linux world that are not participating in a hobby (You can usually tell cuz you get paid for it!)
Bill .....sadly would win....the 1 0n 1 represent PC's, the 3 rounds represent installation CD's and who would win ??? why Bill of course because he would have his installed in 2 hours and Linus.....sadly...he might never get it installed !
dont think so. I think it will go like this:
bill spends hours on the internet looking for drivers, while linus is surfing the web with firefox, checking its email with kmail, and generally using knoppix... while linus was up & running in under 4 minutes, bill spends 2 days getting windows to work (well, it took me that long, a week ago, to get it running on a laptop, including installing software and searching for drivers while I had no documentation at all. installed debian, after that, including configuration and installation of aditional software, in less than 3 hours. eat that, bill).
Bill would win...he would pay Linus some unbelievable amount of money to throw the fight. Linus would retire, spend the rest of his life working on the Linux kernel, and donate the rest of the money to other kernel developers.
I'd bet my money on Linus, in face of the fact that his wife has a black belt in some martial art :)
I'm sure he'd beat Bills "Limping Butterfly" with a "Furious Penguin"
Google Fight say's 37.4 million to 12.6million....
But this can be taken another way as Majority of Desktop PC's use Windows.....lets just say 90%
Linux say 10%
so Bill would need 12.6x9=113.4million to tie the match......owch Go Linus!
Yes please!
Would that be boxing, kickboxing, wrestling, or what?
I'd like to see a wrestling match. With RMS and Scott McNealy and Jobs and Bill and all of them in a big free for all. ;)
Figurative Fist Fight
I wonder if this is a M$ sympathizer troll trying to get apparent Linux supporters to engage in something that will not look that good for Linux. Maybe that is why there are not many answers to this.
Companies are adopting Linux mostly because of uptime. Linux uptime will win in a fist fight with M$ security susceptibility and crashes. You can trust Unix/Linux with big money transactions, but it is a lot more risky using M$ for that. So even with threat of litigation, companies are more and more taking that risk so they don't have to take the security and downtime risk of M$. That is where the figurative fist fight is, and that is where Linus/Linux wins.
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errr.. that was totally irrelevent. Thanks for sharing your brilliant insight.
So it is an M$ trick then
Hi, I approached linux with a
Hi, I approached linux with an open mind. Linux is ok for web serving, or proxy, but it is useless as a desktop. It is useless in terms of software and hardware compatibility and there is no standard with numerous differences between distros. It still hasn't approached windows 3.1 in terms of ease of use for the average user. Why don't the linux nerds (I use the words nerds because nerds are out of touch with the majority) make a gui interface like apple has done? OSX proves that just like Windows, their makers have realised the true power of an OS lies with the way it interacts with the user. Why someone hasn't ported the osx gui code to linux I'll never know. I bet the linux nerds are devoting their lives to proving how insecure windows is rather than improving linux. And linux has security flaws but with so few people using it, who would bother trying to hack a linux box?
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Enlighenment
You sound like you desire Enlighenment, but it's not ready for you yet. Pity.
M$ trick
LOL - doubt they really care that much. Of course when yer at the top you can only go down (see In the Beginning Was the Command Line) - Neal Stephenson - good points on MS futures.
I don't think RMS would engage in a fist-fight. He would not seemingly want to descend from his ivory tower to that level -- just kidding (sort of)
uptime for how old a version
or did you mistype "Linux" when you meant to type "FreeBSD"?
Linux is a joke... its a hobbiests joke that will be dead in a decade.
What uptime? Do you bother looking at forums? Linux boxes are rebooted ALL THE TIME now due to the fallout of common sense from the Linux community and adoption of crap hacks and bandages instead of engineered and well thought out components, abstraction layers, and lets not forget GOOD CODING.
FreeBSD
Aah, but you fail to see how FreeBSD lacks support for hardware, for
example. In fact, it lacks all diversity. So it's like a straight-jacket
but not as comfortable.
Bah, newbie.
FreeBSD is for children who aren't smart enough to install Solaris. Real computers run Solaris, not CrapBSD or LinSux.
FreeBSD
funny :)
joke?
Interesting... guess you missed out on who's using Linux...I agree it could be gone in a decade, mainly cause by then it won't have very far to unless it becomes a microkernel or external os and joins the *largely* false grid charge....
It does have a far greater chance of mutating into the next techno level than corp ventures like Windows... I mean really ... so who's gonna provide the true 3D desktop (not that we *need* it) or voice interface or an interface like Tommy Cruz used in Minority Report...
Not that we need that stuff... but the semblence of techno advance is intrinsic to our conception of the march of civilization and who really *needs* most of the stuff anyway...
But to the point...hobby code... umm no... you are misinformed. I personally know many in the linux world that are not participating in a hobby (You can usually tell cuz you get paid for it!)
I think you are missing a piece somewhere.
Edwardo
Bill .....sadly would win....the 1 0n 1 represent PC's, the 3 rounds represent installation CD's and who would win ??? why Bill of course because he would have his installed in 2 hours and Linus.....sadly...he might never get it installed !
hmmm
dont think so. I think it will go like this:
bill spends hours on the internet looking for drivers, while linus is surfing the web with firefox, checking its email with kmail, and generally using knoppix... while linus was up & running in under 4 minutes, bill spends 2 days getting windows to work (well, it took me that long, a week ago, to get it running on a laptop, including installing software and searching for drivers while I had no documentation at all. installed debian, after that, including configuration and installation of aditional software, in less than 3 hours. eat that, bill).
are you sure?
Last time I hat exactly 8m to install my debian on production Webserver. (no silend installation, just normal klick trough installation)
Bill
Bill would win...he would pay Linus some unbelievable amount of money to throw the fight. Linus would retire, spend the rest of his life working on the Linux kernel, and donate the rest of the money to other kernel developers.
Neither would win. The two do
Neither would win. The two dorks would tire out after swinging and missing a few times, then collapse to the ground out of breath.
LOL
Gates couldn't defend himself against a cream pie attack!
(Some of you should remember that, it was on the news).
Here it is, I think that's Linus doing the pie-ing too!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8550542375827261489
Enjoy!
Linus!
I'd bet my money on Linus, in face of the fact that his wife has a black belt in some martial art :)
I'm sure he'd beat Bills "Limping Butterfly" with a "Furious Penguin"
fight between bill and linux
My guess Bill. His bodyguards would step in if needed. Tho Linus appears to have quite a temper (see his scsi id posts).
I wonder if Linus could survive the temptation if Bill offered him a gi-normous amount of loot to sell his name *hmmm*.
That would suck.
Only one way to know for sure... GoogleFight!
When it comes to debates like this, there is only one way settle the argument. Unfortunately Googlefight goes with Bill.
http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=%22Bill+Gates%22&w...
Google Fight say's 37.4 milli
Google Fight say's 37.4 million to 12.6million....
But this can be taken another way as Majority of Desktop PC's use Windows.....lets just say 90%
Linux say 10%
so Bill would need 12.6x9=113.4million to tie the match......owch Go Linus!