started as reply, but it's going to be another full entry, thus -rc1
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Yes, i was a blind fan boy of Mozilla

But, you know, it is a good experience. At least i have no narrow view, as i can see in linux kernel guys.

Even back in those day, i was asking myself: why do i need to type all those stupid XML tags with all those symbols?

I could write it in a python-style:

def html id=main:
    def body style="display: block"
        def a href="kerneltrap.org":
            """My place of communication with the world."""
        def pre
            """I like it and i thank Jeremy for that!
            def is quoted, thus isn't a syntax
            """

this results in: you can imagine, can't you? (i just don't want to deal with all that < crap; ask me for `sed` transfotm, and i will happily do it for you)

But what i could find in the net was 'Serialization' of python in XML. That was puzzling, who is stupid? It's not a text but object processing, still interesting. But in time i have opened my eyes, i've found Twisted Matrix and it's Banana protocol. Yes, those python guys, who don't like any smell of XML.

In short:

  i think CSS is a good cascading configuration paradigm for
  configuring (linux) kernel;

  now kbuild is a big crap (yes, working and maintained,
  FIXME: add LKML refs):
   - own limited parser (by Roman Zippel) which implements
   - very limited set of static conditions and relations
   (- UI frontends are here and coupled with kbuild)
   (not described)

  sh+sed can implement structure and syntax needed.
  Not, it's not a new CML1(Linux 2.4). CML1 *is* a shell
  script(s).

But before all ideas can easily go, i need The Good User
Interface in text console. Why? Did you see any interractive
CSS composer/editor, for X, for Linux, for 'the geek' console?
I didn't. (blessed WEB 2.0 era may have something already).

This is same as with syntax highlighting
  of regular expressions
  of sed (both of which i don't have) and
  of shell scripting (highlighting is very naive).

The tool is GNU Emacs 21. (what's in 22?)

In BRE (`sed`) every, every single symbol matters. Yet I
use subconcious to look and recognize all logic in those
symbols. Yea, LISP coders like to look at '(' ')', but
i don't like no color in BRE!

WEB 2.0 era http://www.google.com/search?q=CSS+editor

first link:
http://www.westciv.com/style_master/screenshots/screenshots_win.html

-> see in "Code" section
href="../images/screen_shots/win_syntax_color_large.jpg"
title="Syntax coloring: more than just pretty print"

They bet! BTW, Not bad one as it seems!

But i need cascading more, than style for kbuild. And this requires some kind of multidimentional walk+edit/select (think menuconfig), as connections and relations in CONFIG* symbols require. Style content will be a gcc options/#define soup.

GUI menus, lists are backward. Well, for me all GUI elements are so. They are not dynamic, and no, i don't need moving OpenGL crap, another dynamizm is needed. I'm thinking about UI, it's text/console based as it is not limited in the way one can go. And for visual i need another input system, it's also what i was going to do shell+sed and here writing.
(i still have much to do before any showtime).

Reply from http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Ksplice_Rebootless_Linux_Kernel_Security_Upd...

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> Also, that crap about plain text kernel driver interfaces doesn't even make sense.

OK, what is POSIX+configure+forests of #ifdef/#endif in userspace applications, that were developed not only for Linux?

If Linux kernel developers don't bother much to document own APIs even in human-readable form, then what can i say about automated source processing?

Forcing to read sources, is kind of slavery: "i did job, care to read it". Examples that this is not working: vmsplice() security hole as well as many comments from top developers (e.g. Al), that there is no that much review. There is nothing "new" WRT automated tools for audit/maintaining of the code, not saying about generating it for quite clear and simple interfaces of hardware (take a look at LabView or SPICE models for analog components for instance). Please, be my guest, look at my stuff here on site and comment there.

This is off-topic indeed here. And take care of what you are calling crap, because real one can hit you in your face right from holes in Linux.
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> Those robot guys are wanting to make a football team beating
> humans, yet harvesting... (Sucks?)

http://www.press.redhat.com/2008/05/20/a-new-goal-for-open-source/

Crap.