Kerneltrap's server clock is 6 hours behind actual time

Submitted by Anonymous
on October 17, 2007 - 4:11am

Did you ever have noticed that the clock of the server that serves
the content of Kerneltrap is 6 hours behind the actual time?

In a globalized world it would also be more appropriate to display
time stamps and similar things in an ISO8601-like format with timezone
information included. I don't know which time it is when I read
12:05pm, for example, because that depends on the location. And on
the web, location doesn't matter that much, this is even more true
when it comes to kernel development with people working around the
world.

Seconded. I would like to

on
October 17, 2007 - 7:06pm

Seconded. I would like to see dates in the ISO 8601 time/date format (much more natural to read) and also numeric timezone offsets.

ISO 8601

on
October 18, 2007 - 10:08am

Are you suggesting you want to see the time formatted something like:

"1985-04-12T23:20:50.52Z"

If so, I have to disagree. I find that very difficult to read. If not, please provide an example of what you wish to see.

The only thing that makes

on
October 23, 2007 - 11:03am

The only thing that makes them messy is the "T" separator which is usually not shown in user interfaces. Try:
1985-04-12 23:20:50Z

Now, this is nitpicking, but the ordering of elements in April 12, 1985 - 11:20pm seems confusing, for me at least, because the order has no relation to significance. "1985" is really more significant than "April", "pm" is more significant than "11".

Here in Europe we use "12 April 1985, 23:20" which is more natural for me than the American one, but I still find ISO 8601 easier to grasp simply because and the ordering of all fields is logical and consistent.

you can choose

on
October 18, 2007 - 1:01am

you can choose a time offset in the [My account] settings, if you give up you anonymity. for some strange reason you select not a timezone but an absolute number of hours, i.e. despite being delivered by an intelligent computer which can do better, the website behaves like an old mechanical clock: you have to change the offset by +/-1 hour twice a year.

the 'Latest forum posts' column on the right shows 'XX hours ago', which is time zone independent and even works if the clock is totally off time

i have problems reading am/pm times, 24h times would be easier for me

Make it automatic

Lawrence D'Oliveiro (not verified)
on
October 18, 2007 - 4:47am

Why not let the browser automatically show the time in the user's local time zone? Use a technique like this, then the server doesn't have to figure it out.

Because it requires

Anonymous (not verified)
on
October 18, 2007 - 5:16am

Because it requires Javascript?

Decent NTP time sync daemon: http://chrony.sunsite.dk/

drupal

on
October 18, 2007 - 10:10am

"for some strange reason you select not a timezone but an absolute number of hours,"

Unfortunately this is how Drupal does it. I believe there has been work done to improve this, but I've not been involved myself.

"i have problems reading am/pm times, 24h times would be easier for me"

I'm the exact opposite, which is why I switched to am/pm times. It's trivial to switch it back, but would affect everyone. I'll give this some thought.

Server clock is being fixed now

Anonymous (not verified)
on
October 18, 2007 - 8:54am

Well, the server clock is being fixed now, the HTTP Date: header field
contains up-to-date values. Thank you guys at Kerneltrap.

My original post was submitted on Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:11:25 GMT, but
on the HTML page, a date of "October 16, 2007 - 11:11pm" is (still)
being displayed. What is going wrong here? We will see what date this
post will have, the current date is Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:52:35 GMT.

time issues

on
October 18, 2007 - 10:13am

I've not made any recent changes. I have confirmed that ntpd is running and properly keeping the system time in sync. As for the issue of time zones, I hope to find time to focus on this soon.

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