... to fund doing it. I was never silent about it. Making files into directories ... We have just implemented very trivial semantic enhancements of the FS namespace, ... user-visible changes that Hans sneaked in and make reiser4 >incompatible with other ...

linux-fsdevel - Hans Reiser - Aug 25 2004 - 15:53

... -list@namesys.com> > Subject: Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4 > > Hans Reiser < ... named streams that can be accessed with openat. Both are > concepts that won't ... since sliced bread. You say that > "reiser4 should create something that works". ...

linux-fsdevel - David Lang - Sep 7 2004 - 18:36

... to duplicate all VFS functioanlity > inside reiser4. That would be good. Even better ... best semantics that we agree is nice, after some experimenting with reiser4 lets ... "just" a filesystem. Secondly, the reiser4 design makes the "high-level plugin ...

linux-fsdevel - Jamie Lokier - Aug 26 2004 - 10:44

... see three possible responses: > >a) accept the reiser4-only extensions as-is (possibly with post-review > modifications, of course) or > ... of ReiserFS is going to be bursting with semantic enhancements, because the prerequisites for them ...

linux-fsdevel - Hans Reiser - Aug 26 2004 - 04:31

... do not break the Linux O_DIRECTORY semantics that are defined and need to ... doing it. I was never silent about it. For one thing ... try to solve the problems with files as directories. > Now a ... faster. Not as fast as reiser4 though, because it has a ...

linux-fsdevel - Christoph Hellwig - Aug 25 2004 - 16:08

... not innovating in > your semantics, and feel content with stasis. This misunderstanding is ... a reiser4 plugin is one way to get to the new semantics, but ... of filesystems we do have, including reiser4. -chris - To unsubscribe from this list: ...

linux-fsdevel - Chris Mason - Aug 26 2004 - 09:38

... have to use > > traditional O_DIRECTORY semantics. There would be no /metas ... This is compatible with reiser4 file-as-directory semantics, but I ... opendir() to succeed on a reiser4 file? It's up to ... decide if we like that semantic, or prefer a different one ...

linux-fsdevel - Jamie Lokier - Aug 25 2004 - 19:54

Jamie Lokier wrote: >Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > >>>Reiser4 may have a mount option for ... or have to use >>>traditional O_DIRECTORY semantics. There would be no /metas under ... . This is compatible with reiser4 file-as-directory semantics, but >I don ...

linux-fsdevel - Hans Reiser - Aug 26 2004 - 04:44

... This breaks the r4 semantics if I understood it correctly. Reiser4 currently links /metas/ directory under each reiser4 fs object. Reiser4 "silently" allows regular file to be ... I modify /dev/hda I also change /dev/hda/partN and > vice-versa. ...

linux-fsdevel - Alex Zarochentsev - Aug 30 2004 - 10:10

... " is _not_ "many current > uses". >> >> Reiser4 has done that, finally. None of ... ReiserFS is going to be bursting with >> >> semantic enhancements, because the prerequisites for ... as it is today. No change. >> Compression or encryption is another ...

linux-fsdevel - Spam - Aug 29 2004 - 12:53

... " is _not_ "many current > uses". >> >> Reiser4 has done that, finally. None of ... ReiserFS is going to be bursting with >> >> semantic enhancements, because the prerequisites for ... as it is today. No change. >> Compression or encryption is another ...

linux-fsdevel - Spam - Aug 29 2004 - 12:54

... t merge file-as-a-directory > semantics into the kernel until we figure ... what about xattrs and ACLs...? Actually, reiser4 doesn't currently implement storage of ... chtephan users 0 26. Aug 13:54 sd Here you can change reiser4 specific things. Here you can ...

linux-fsdevel - Christophe Saout - Aug 26 2004 - 08:00

... 't merge file-as-a-directory >>semantics into the kernel until we figure ... 13:54 sd > >Here you can change reiser4 specific things. Here you can change some >properties how the file is ... of convertion from one look (say with old plugin) to another one. ...

linux-fsdevel - Yury Umanets - Aug 28 2004 - 07:00

... merge file-as-a-directory >>semantics into the kernel until we ... 54 sd > >Here you can change reiser4 specific things. Here you ... about the principle ability to change these things. Because in real ... conversion from one look (say with old plugin) to another one ...

linux-fsdevel - Yury Umanets - Aug 28 2004 - 07:12

... opens succeed on all files on reiser4. Besides breaking > > > .htaccess handling in apache and ... data in an xattr. For example, with reiser4's model, you can cd into ... ordinary tools. So here's a semantic proposal: 1. O_DIRECTORY won't open ...

linux-fsdevel - Jamie Lokier - Aug 24 2004 - 17:18

... the current reiser4 semantics break that and as soon as you're having a > > world-writeable (e.g ... break that? > > In a reiser4 filesystem, a file _is_ a directory. > ... of sort of security problem arises > with a world-writeable directory such as ...

linux-fsdevel - Christoph Hellwig - Aug 26 2004 - 11:57

... avoiced, in short the posix+extension semantics are implemented > in the Linux VFS ... to duplicate all VFS functioanlity > inside reiser4. Are you actually listening? If you ... plugin. This has nothing to do with semantic enhancements yet. These should be ...

linux-fsdevel - Christophe Saout - Aug 26 2004 - 09:00

... , in short the posix+extension semantics are implemented > > in the Linux VFS ... to duplicate all VFS functioanlity > > inside reiser4. > > Are you actually listening? If you ... . This has nothing to do with semantic > enhancements yet. These should be ...

linux-fsdevel - Christoph Hellwig - Aug 26 2004 - 09:07

... > Unfortunately, the problem is that reiser4 is the only filesystem > > which is ... 's not too many > objects with different namespace semantic: regular files and special ... and fragment rearrangements in auxiliary files with special names" layer would be ...

linux-fsdevel - Jamie Lokier - Aug 26 2004 - 12:19

... . > Andrew, we need to compete with WinFS and Dominic Giampaolo's filesystem ... -to-day, down-to-earth, practice_. > Reiser4 has done that, finally. None of ... ReiserFS is going to be bursting with > semantic enhancements, because the prerequisites for ...

linux-fsdevel - Horst von Brand - Aug 26 2004 - 14:12