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Re: Wasting our Freedom

... I can appreciate your intentions, but you're recommending waging a > propaganda campaign against ... actions by contacting them directly. STOP WASTING YOUR TIME ON THIS MAILING LIST ... don't care for your freedoms. STOP WASTING YOUR TIME ON THIS MAILING ...

openbsd-misc - Jason Dixon - Sep 14 2007 - 14:35

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... rights and recognition of one of our > own developers (reyk@) have been molested, ... your voice is necessary for keeping our freedom alive. > > > Contacts: > > Eben Moglen - ... All of their nonsense marketing about freedom and fairness is nothing more than ...

openbsd-misc - J.C. Roberts - Sep 15 2007 - 06:33

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... the bait from trolls, while our freedoms > are quickly eroding away. ... and recognition of one of our > own developers (reyk@) have been ... freedoms. How many of us can say we've done our ... Company X", "GPL") protects my freedoms better... And I also dimly ...

openbsd-misc - Toni Mueller - Oct 11 2007 - 14:05

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... the bait from trolls, while our freedoms > > are quickly eroding away. ... and recognition of one of our > > own developers (reyk@) have been ... freedoms. How many of us can say we've done our ... Company X", "GPL") protects my freedoms better... > And I also dimly ...

openbsd-misc - Karl Sjodahl - dunceor - Oct 12 2007 - 01:00

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... can appreciate your intentions, but you're recommending waging a propaganda campaign against ... rights and recognition of one of our > own developers (reyk@) have been ... voice is necessary for keeping our freedom alive. > > > Contacts: > > Eben Moglen - ...

openbsd-misc - Rob - Sep 14 2007 - 14:13

Re: Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

... my first response which I gave the subject "Divide and conquer (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)" Although there ... MS, lose out if we use our time effectively or if the general ... including in this case, is the re-circulation of outdated and incorrect ...

openbsd-misc - Lars Noodén - Sep 16 2007 - 10:24

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... they share some common goals related to freedom and improvement of Open Source software. ... ANY license violation to occur, it affects our own work, regardless of the license ... advice, and do not respond to our valid inquiries and objections. Is it ...

openbsd-misc - Can E. Acar - Sep 16 2007 - 14:48

Divide and conquer (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

... coding, documenting, debugging or teaching. Or... Speaking of freedom, tomorrow (Saturday, September 16th, 2007) is Software Freedom Day. Many here, if interested in promoting freedom, should make sure of an OpenBSD presence: http:// ...

openbsd-misc - Lars Noodén - Sep 14 2007 - 05:33

Statement by SFLC (was Re: Wasting our Freedom)

... and threatened lawsuits, thus slowing down our efforts to help them. It might ... had occurred? Wild accusations about our motives are even more silly than ... -0898 moglen@ Founding Director, Software Freedom Law Center columbia.edu 1995 ...

openbsd-misc - Eben Moglen - Sep 16 2007 - 09:17

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... this issue. In doing so, you'll not only end the current pointless waste of time between GPL/GNU/BSD, but you'll also prevent the pointless waste of time of discussing this to death on lkml when the time comes to ...

openbsd-misc - J.C. Roberts - Sep 17 2007 - 04:22

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... thing for my contributions? You're not only asking to contribute ... By not giving back you're giving a strange signal. Gee ... be free not to share? Freedom includes having the moral right ... to share? Or is this "freedom" just an empty shell? -- Funny ...

openbsd-misc - Bodo Eggert - Sep 18 2007 - 07:16

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... the same thing > for my contributions? > > You're not only asking to contribute to your ... people to be free not to share? Freedom includes having the > moral right to do ... not to share? Or is this "freedom" > just an empty shell? > > -- > Funny quotes: ...

openbsd-misc - linux-os (Dick Johnson) - Sep 18 2007 - 07:46

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... have no more say on the subject. Let me, instead tell you ... , a couple of years ago, our developers went into great pains ... the questionable licenses that were our tree. We are actively working ... non-BSD licensed code in our tree. Not by slapping on ...

openbsd-misc - Can E. Acar - Sep 18 2007 - 15:51

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... this list are an utter waste of time and resources. (Of ... m going to contribute to the waste a little more.) Theo made ... belongs. Continuing to argue and re-argue the various points here, ... an amicable resolution. If you're not a German IP lawyer, ...

openbsd-misc - Rob - Sep 16 2007 - 04:02

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... creation of a derived work with a more restrictive license --- such as the GPL. But don't take my word for it; the Software Freedom Law Center has issued advice, pro bono, written by lawyers about how this can be done. If you want, feel free get ...

openbsd-misc - Theodore Tso - Sep 16 2007 - 17:12

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... B. You are confusing licenses with license notices. The GPL says you must keep GPL license notices intact. Otherwise, it gives you complete freedom to modify. This means that if you choose the GPL, you gain (from the GPL) the right to remove the BSD ...

openbsd-misc - David Schwartz - Sep 17 2007 - 08:08

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... > > NetApp does not pretend to be free and open and save the world etc GPL and BSD are two different philosophies of freedom. Some people (e.g. me) consider the BSD licence a less free licence since it doesn't defend that the code stays free. ...

openbsd-misc - Adrian Bunk - Sep 17 2007 - 08:57

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... >> NetApp does not pretend to be free and open and save the world etc > > GPL and BSD are two different philosophies of freedom. > > Some people (e.g. me) consider the BSD licence a less free licence > since it doesn't defend that the code stays free ...

openbsd-misc - Jason Dixon - Sep 17 2007 - 09:15

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... on code. It is therefore less > free than the BSD. > > Free code + restrictions = non-free code. The legal restriction that people must not enter your house uninvited by smashing the door adds to your freedom, don't you think so? Hans

openbsd-misc - Hans-Jürgen Koch - Sep 17 2007 - 09:19

Re: Wasting our Freedom

... 'share'-nature of the GPL that doesn't give back the freedom of BSD licenced code. | If you take the GPL seriously you ... licences [not making any observations about other folks or other subjects here, this is based on my personal observations] I'm ...

openbsd-misc - Paul de Weerd - Sep 17 2007 - 14:02

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