... a very negative impact on >>> bug >>> reporters. We should do our ... list. There are different people and different situations, in >> which they ... the way), but if the bug takes a long time to ... one big difference between tat and bisecting the problem is that ...

linux-kernel - david - Apr 13 2008 - 19:51

... weeks kicking all possible stuff around and eventually drop that namespace patch at ... reporter, often asking them to bisect. > If the reporter is running a distro ... global warming tendency. IIRC. Bugs _are_ fixed, Andrew. And developers did not change ...

linux-kernel - Evgeniy Polyakov - Apr 13 2008 - 16:21

... That's because many (probably most) Linux bugs are dependent upon the > > hardware which ... . Or > > > > b) just ignore the report altogether. > > There is also global warming ... case no one reacted to my report(s) until I ran a bisection and then it ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Apr 13 2008 - 16:33

... not the case for most kernel bugs, although > sometimes it is possible given a ... submit test cases and then let someone else (like a bug > master) do ... of all, the reporter would not feel like the bisection is the default response ! > -Andi Willy ...

linux-kernel - Willy Tarreau - Apr 14 2008 - 06:00

... one big difference between that > and bisecting the problem is that ... looking for a e1000 bug, testing bisect points that > haven't ... it would speed up the reporters efforts, but will require more ... would need to tell the reporters > what subtrees to test) so ...

linux-kernel - Jakub Narebski - Apr 13 2008 - 20:36

... *only* product which requires > the bug reporter to find the fault ... a hardware independent test case. And while most of the kernel ... any faster than just running bisect for the user. That said ... commit ids when asking for bisect for likely changes that could ...

linux-kernel - Andi Kleen - Apr 14 2008 - 05:58

... stumbling over. > > Well, the fact is, reporting bugs is always welcome. > > However, it ... people ask you to do a bisection, they probably mean "we don't ... reporter contacts the editor/author/support/... and briefly describes his problem. Support asks ...

linux-kernel - Willy Tarreau - Apr 13 2008 - 14:47

> And most of all, the reporter would not feel like the bisection is > the default response ! Well it is proportional to the quality of the bug report. If it very vague enough often there is no other good answer. If it comes with ...

linux-kernel - Andi Kleen - Apr 14 2008 - 06:16

... the *only* product which requires > the bug reporter to find the fault change ... asked to git bisect for the commit that broke it. And I'd actually assume that it' ... projects to ask the user to bisect regressions. > Regards, > Willy cu Adrian -- ...

linux-kernel - Adrian Bunk - Apr 13 2008 - 16:10

... often asking them to > bisect. If the reporter is running a ... when all other avenues fail - and even then i try to ... work for most users. [ Requiring bisection for userspace projects might be ... it's not automated completely and where a failure pattern is ...

linux-kernel - Ingo Molnar - Apr 14 2008 - 06:18

... 's because many (probably most) Linux bugs are dependent upon the > hardware which they run on, and developers ... , often asking them to bisect. > If the reporter is running a distro ... ) then that's > quite hard, and often isn't a think they ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Apr 13 2008 - 15:27

... . Why should Mark Lord report another bug to us? Put yourself ... lunch and therefore didnt have time to do more bisect for ... gazillion electrons responding to people and justifying his stance - he got ... his time whatsoever when the bug was fixed (he wont be ...

linux-kernel - jamal - Apr 15 2008 - 09:18

... would be done on developers machine and huge patches would > be sent to ... 's so-called "back and forth with the bug reporter" used to mainly ... spending lots of time bisecting things by hand. We're able to automate this now and it's not a bad thing. -- ...

linux-kernel - David Miller - Apr 13 2008 - 16:35

... finding reproducers) 3) An EXT3 bug that in theory can cause ... have less than 10 reports per bug. At position 50 we ... of people actually hitting the bug) I'll be writing a ... intel.com For development, discussion and tips for power savings, visit ...

linux-kernel - Arjan van de Ven - Apr 14 2008 - 10:43

... finding reproducers) > 3) An EXT3 bug that in theory can cause ... have less than 10 reports per bug. > At position 50 we ... of people actually hitting the bug) > > > > I'll be writing a ... this soon with more analysis and statistics > (I'll be looking ...

linux-kernel - Andrew Morton - Apr 14 2008 - 13:51

... copy list. There are different people and different situations, in > >>which they do ... the point where there are no bugs is > unreasonable. [...] Agreed. The difficulty is ... make the relation between a reported bug and a possible submitter. Willy ...

linux-kernel - Willy Tarreau - Apr 14 2008 - 00:39

... _should_ spend time mucking > in bug-tracking systems. They should have ... in the kernel would be reported in the kernel Bugzilla I ... would debug e.g. APM bugs? And if I want to ... who understands our floppy driver... ;) And who would debug problems with ...

linux-kernel - Adrian Bunk - Apr 14 2008 - 08:08

... > occurring. Several days of back-and-forth. The ratio of bug reports to developers was significantly different back then. I pine ... sometimes too, but I try to be realistic and understand why things are different now. -- To ...

linux-kernel - David Miller - Apr 13 2008 - 15:47

... wrote: > Things like this are very disappointing and have a very negative impact on bug > reporters. We should do our best ... were in the copy list. There are different people and different situations, in which they do not reply. -- ...

linux-kernel - Evgeniy Polyakov - Apr 13 2008 - 16:54

... ) wrote: >> Things like this are very disappointing and have a very negative impact on bug >> reporters. We should do our best ... in > the copy list. There are different people and different situations, in > which they do not reply. > ...

linux-kernel - Stephen Clark - Apr 13 2008 - 18:24