... sit a bit towards the non- free side of his. But ... preventing users from >> running the software they choose is more important ... is that OpenBSD does not include any non-free software, > unlike ... stuff in the base system. Which is why the jokes about ...

openbsd-misc - Ray Percival - Dec 10 2007 - 07:28

... X-Mailer, but isn't non-free and full of patents ; ... preventing users from > running the software they choose is more important ... is that OpenBSD does not include any non-free software, unlike ... blobs, evil licenses, and non-free stuff in the base system ...

openbsd-misc - Reyk Floeter - Dec 10 2007 - 06:14

... religious nut is talking about software in ports/packages. He seems to ... 's users even INSTALL non-free software. Same reason he doesn' ... like Debian, even though they're one of the few distributions ... understood, this isn't true about OpenBSD, or am I wrong ...

openbsd-misc - Kevin Stam - Dec 9 2007 - 23:23

... ports system, they all include some non-free > programs. And as a result ... incorrect word choice. For example, the OpenBSD ports system includes Opera, but you ... Dynebolic as "consist[ing] entirely of free software". However, according to their site ...

openbsd-misc - Steve Shockley - Dec 10 2007 - 00:18

... ), which apply very much to OpenBSD. About 22 minutes into the ... a "web app" piece of software, then if your users > cannot edit ... s why there are several licenses. In some situations, BSD-style license ... way to sift out the non-free stuff during a search ...

openbsd-misc - Lars Noodén - Dec 10 2007 - 14:53

... distribution of software won't teach users that non-free is ok ... , you didn't. Yes, you in particular should let it go ... taking shots at you. Talking > about it gets noting accomplished. Neither ... 52nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3173 + No matter ...

openbsd-misc - Rui Miguel Silva Seabra - Dec 10 2007 - 03:24

... software down > > the users throats in the stead of something else, thus restricting ... honourable distribution of software won't teach > users that non-free is ok ... respected taking shots at you. Talking > > about it gets noting accomplished. > > Neither ...

openbsd-misc - Nick Guenther - Dec 10 2007 - 11:57

... com/2007/10/bsdtalk132-richard-stallman.html > > In the interview he states: "I am ... BSD, because all of them include, in their > installation systems, the ports system, ... makes it possible to install non-free software... to the notable exception of GNU ...

openbsd-misc - Marc Espie - Dec 10 2007 - 09:47

... the language your are expressing yourself in. Your arguments are stupid and retarded ... honourable distribution of software won't teach > users that non-free is ok ... taking shots at you. Talking > > about it gets noting accomplished. > > Neither does ...

openbsd-misc - Marco Peereboom - Dec 10 2007 - 10:49

... dead so lets leave it rot in piece. On Mon, Dec 10, ... 2007/10/bsdtalk132-richard-stallman.html > > In the interview he states: "I ... system, they all include some non-free > programs. And as a ... understood, this isn't true about OpenBSD, or am I wrong? ...

openbsd-misc - Marco Peereboom - Dec 10 2007 - 00:51

wow how completely uninteresting. How about kicking the lawyers out and ... doing this. > > No one has noticed.>> > > In fairness, these charges seem overzealous; ... Service, Application Service Providing and Free Software". > > According to this article, ...

openbsd-misc - Marco Peereboom - Dec 11 2007 - 12:43

... is quite silly. Stallman insists on "free" software, and distributions are only acceptable ... software down the users throats in the stead of something else, thus restricting ... taking shots at you. Talking about it gets noting accomplished. -- Travers ...

openbsd-misc - Travers Buda - Dec 10 2007 - 01:57

... *=(not Yes) [depending on your definition of '(non-)free'] -- >++++++++[<++++++++++>-]<+++++++.>+++[<------>-]<.>+++[<+ +++++++++++>-]<.>++[<------------>-]<+.--------------.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/

openbsd-misc - Paul de Weerd - Dec 10 2007 - 15:20

Steve Shockley wrote: > Lars NoodC)n wrote: >> Having a way to sift out the non-free stuff during a search of the ports >> tree would be useful. > > PERMIT_*=(not Yes) Thanks. http://www.openbsd.org/checklist.html -Lars

openbsd-misc - Lars Noodén - Dec 10 2007 - 15:27

... not doing this. > No one has noticed.>> > In fairness, these charges seem overzealous; deliberately ... use of GPLv2'ed web applications regarding "Software as a Service, Application Service Providing and Free Software". According to this article, the ...

openbsd-misc - Sebastian Raible - Dec 11 2007 - 12:24

Lars NoodC)n wrote: > Having a way to sift out the non-free stuff during a search of the ports > tree would be useful. PERMIT_*=(not Yes)

openbsd-misc - Steve Shockley - Dec 10 2007 - 15:01

... need systems to prevent users from installing nasty unfree software. Something like...DRM. Oh wait.. On Dec 9, 2007 11: ... to be saying is that preventing users from > running the software they choose is more important than respecting > patents. > > ...

openbsd-misc - Kevin Stam - Dec 10 2007 - 00:41

So, what Stallman seems to be saying is that preventing users from running the software they choose is more important than respecting patents. Slavery is freedom.

openbsd-misc - Ray Percival - Dec 10 2007 - 00:27

... a GNU GPL license in their software application must ship the ... this. No one has noticed.>> In fairness, these charges seem overzealous ... your site on you ("modify software they use") then you are ... don't have to think about licensing shit*, and GNU (especially ...

openbsd-misc - Nick Guenther - Dec 10 2007 - 12:43

Thanks for reminding about BSD-talk. There is a lot of good stuff there in the archives. Rico Secada wrote: > ... I have understood, this isn't true about OpenBSD, or am I wrong? Maybe there is some problematic stuff in the Ports. -Lars

openbsd-misc - Lars Noodén - Dec 10 2007 - 02:08