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Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... STR, don't do the freezer thing. > > > > > > > >  - For STD, don't ... each other due to the freezer. > > > What do you intend to ... doesn't either. So removing the freezer from the hibernate path ... list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Miklos Szeredi - Jul 3 2007 - 07:22

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... used by all of the existing implementations for Linux seems to depend fundamentally on the freezer, though, in order to ... [snip] -- Jeremy Maitin-Shepard - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" ...

linux-kernel - Jeremy Maitin-Shepard - Jul 5 2007 - 23:59

Re: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway)

... that. Well, this introduces interdependencies between processes that do not exist otherwise. ... and should not be suspended. > > Now.. freezer already includes timeout; if some ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Jul 8 2007 - 14:08

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... The problem is generic in nature. If you remove the freezer, user space remains active until the last CPU ... additional locking in many drivers. Regards Oliver - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body ...

linux-kernel - Oliver Neukum - Jul 3 2007 - 07:07

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... The problem is generic in nature. > > > > If you remove the freezer, user space remains active until the last ... . Something is fishy here. Regards Oliver - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body ...

linux-kernel - Oliver Neukum - Jul 3 2007 - 07:27

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... fuse. The problem is generic in nature. > > If you remove the freezer, user space remains active until the last CPU > ... is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Jul 3 2007 - 08:58

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... . The problem is generic in nature. > > If you remove the freezer, user space remains active until the last CPU > ... willing to turn on such an option. Miklos - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Miklos Szeredi - Jul 3 2007 - 11:46

Re: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway)

... or stop the suspend with an unprivileged > > > > process. Avoiding that sort of DoS is ... be just fixing the symptoms. > Now.. freezer already includes timeout; if some part ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in ...

linux-kernel - Miklos Szeredi - Jul 8 2007 - 10:23

Re: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway)

... of freezer failure). > > > You may not like the fact that one process can cause another to go > > ... update at the bottom of this patch: http://www.sisk.pl/kernel/ ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Jul 8 2007 - 17:07

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... . The problem is generic in nature. > > If you remove the freezer, user space remains active until the last CPU > ... lazy approach here doesn't work. Ben. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Benjamin Herrenschmidt - Jul 3 2007 - 07:44

Re: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway)

... > Well, this introduces interdependencies between processes that do not exist > otherwise. ... 'm totally ignorant about why the freezer is necessary for hibernate. Please explain ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" ...

linux-kernel - Miklos Szeredi - Jul 8 2007 - 15:50

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... freezer doesn't achieve its stated goal of preventing drivers from ... also applies to > some userspace processes. Userspace cannot do I/O ... done during the suspend, you're in real trouble -- how do ... list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Alan Stern - Jul 4 2007 - 10:57

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... t handle uninterruptible tasks in the > > > freezer is that we're afraid of the suspend process deadlocking with an > ... that needs to be fixed. Cheers, Ben. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body ...

linux-kernel - Benjamin Herrenschmidt - Jul 6 2007 - 22:44

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... t handle uninterruptible tasks in the > > > > freezer is that we're afraid of the suspend process deadlocking with an > > ... is the root of all evil." - Donald Knuth - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Jul 7 2007 - 16:48

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... be. The freezer doesn't achieve its stated goal of preventing drivers from getting ... paragraph also applies to some userspace processes. > Userspace will be effectively "frozen" ... this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a ...

linux-kernel - Paul Mackerras - Jul 4 2007 - 00:59

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... . The problem is generic in nature. > > > > If you remove the freezer, user space remains active until the last CPU > ... mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Machek - Jul 4 2007 - 20:02

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... the kernel threads and the freezer are a separate issue. No, ... done during the suspend, you're in real trouble -- how do ... more than the freezer does. Paul. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of ...

linux-kernel - Paul Mackerras - Jul 4 2007 - 20:23

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... , I stand my ground, the freezer cannot be made reliable without ... won't help with dynamic PM but that's not necessarily an ... for a freezer either way. Ben. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a ...

linux-kernel - Benjamin Herrenschmidt - Jul 5 2007 - 19:05

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... try > > > to order freezing userspace processes in the right order would ... the freezer is that we're afraid of the suspend process ... at all). I have a patch for that, will post it ... To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel ...

linux-kernel - Rafael J. Wysocki - Jul 6 2007 - 03:13

Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway

... advice and stop using the freezer > during suspend, these issues would ... s easy enough to freeze all processes (or all except one), if ... that we can have a freezer as long as we do ... - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" ...

linux-kernel - Paul Mackerras - Jul 8 2007 - 03:19

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