... change after 2.6.24 broke ndiswrapper by accidentally removing its >> access to GPL- ... to revert a patch that, as its author admitted, had unexpected consequences: http ... 's under GPL. Yet the proprietary modules are not Linux derivatives because they ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Feb 29 2008 - 02:20

... 2.6.24 broke ndiswrapper by accidentally removing its > access to ... 'd even though it then loads modules that aren't is stupid and pointless. Clearly it just re-exports those GPLONLY functions ... the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Feb 28 2008 - 19:25

... of developers. > So asking people to make ndiswrapper be user-mode only is ... . To recap: 1) USB API 2) Workqueue API (there is a hackish replacement ... an explicit exception. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Mar 4 2008 - 13:45

... > >>>I'm not seeing why ndiswrapper should be treated separately. >> >>It is ... loading a proprietary firmware? Once ndiswrapper loads the binary blob the kernel ... argument suggesting that ndiswrapper should be able to use GPLONLY symbols. Chris ...

linux-kernel - Chris Friesen - Feb 29 2008 - 12:54

... of Linux specific API. Exactly. And ndiswrapper loads proprietary modules. You're not following the argument. There was a reason ndiswrapper was marked for tainting. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line " ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Feb 29 2008 - 12:08

... So I personally don't see EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() to be a "technical measure", I see ... .' Under that interpretation, ndiswrapper should be able to make use of GPLONLY ... are clearly not derivative works. Chris -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the ...

linux-kernel - Chris Friesen - Feb 29 2008 - 13:59

... frankly, I'm not going to force > them - I have my ... a special case and we're ok with it", I'll ... or just mark ndiswrapper special in the module > loader again. OK ... becomes necessary. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Feb 29 2008 - 17:13

... sent before - I was simply correcting what seemed to be "obviously" broken logic in module.c for handling ndiswrapper[0]. I was ... seem to think it involves backing out this patch (the most compelling argument given so far is ...

linux-kernel - Jon Masters - Feb 29 2008 - 13:18

... The only thing ndiswrapper exports > > to NDIS modules is NDIS API. ... Which just means that you're apparently not interested in actually ... would not have sent a patch. > In other words: the next ... say. They want proprietary drivers to be in the userspace. I ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Feb 29 2008 - 15:39

... the requirement would be for > NdisMAllocateSharedMemory() to return a linear address that is ... user mode. So asking people to make ndiswrapper be user-mode only is ... ), but whether we should let ndiswrapper continue using GPLONLY symbols. Quite ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Mar 4 2008 - 13:19

... is non-GPL. [cut] > Exactly. And ndiswrapper loads proprietary modules. The Linux kernel itself will load proprietary modules. It does not as a general rule, ... How about if everyone involved piously promises to load it at least once? [1] ...

linux-kernel - Zan Lynx - Feb 29 2008 - 12:59

... So as far as I'm concerned, > ndiswrapper may be distasteful froma technical and support ... USB things that > ndiswrapper wants is much more involved, and more likely to have ... . I have no objection to reverting that patch to have nidiswrapper access to ...

linux-kernel - Greg KH - Mar 4 2008 - 13:38

... the GPL only applies to derivative works. Given that ndiswrapper loads > binaries designed ... t GPL'd. So stop blathering. ndiswrapper has one purpose, and one purpose ... shouldn't touch GPLONLY functions. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Feb 29 2008 - 13:06

... Linux kernel itself will load proprietary modules. It does not as a > > ... comparison. The only thing ndiswrapper exports to NDIS modules is NDIS API. ... change and redistribute. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Feb 29 2008 - 13:20

... comparison. The only thing ndiswrapper exports > to NDIS modules is NDIS API. GPLONLY ... email. Which just means that you're apparently not interested in actually fixing ... and I'll never see it. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Feb 29 2008 - 13:33

... back and say "yeah, we think ndiswrapper is a special case and we're ok with it", I'll happily ... GPL or just mark ndiswrapper special in the module loader again. Quite ... along in the least. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Feb 29 2008 - 16:28

... be in the userspace. I doubt ndiswrapper will ever be ported to the > > userspace. It's ... with the workqueue interface: __create_workqueue_key destroy_workqueue flush_workqueue queue_work ndiswrapper has its own workqueue implementation, but it ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Feb 29 2008 - 16:08

... like the (wildly successful) FUSE concept? ndiswrapper contains essentially two drivers in ... may still be missing. ndiswrapper needs to register network devices. For ... of work. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send ...

linux-kernel - Pavel Roskin - Feb 29 2008 - 18:31

... the requirement would be for > > NdisMAllocateSharedMemory() to return a linear address that is ... i's simply not possible to put ndiswrapper in user-space sanely. > ... Not sure whether recent versions of ndiswrapper have solved this problem. Ingo -- ...

linux-kernel - Ingo Molnar - Mar 4 2008 - 16:51

... will say. They want proprietary drivers > to be in the userspace. I doubt ndiswrapper will ever be ported to the > userspace. ... 's the case, then talk to the USB people. Maybe they ... it's their code. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send ...

linux-kernel - Linus Torvalds - Feb 29 2008 - 15:53