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Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

Matthew Dillon wrote: > HAMMER is really shaping up now. Here's what works now: *snip* > I have ... : Argument list too long Unless I script it into manageable chunks.... If HAMMER fs has a better, even mechanism - even a rahter BFBI one, ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Bill Hacker - Feb 11 2008 - 04:08

Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

... On 11/02/2008, Bill Hacker wrote: > Matthew Dillon wrote: > > HAMMER is really shaping up now. Here's ... Unless I script it into manageable chunks.... > > If HAMMER fs has a better, even mechanism - even ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Adrian Chadd - Feb 11 2008 - 04:50

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... February 2008, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: > On Mon, February 11, 2008 7:25 pm, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > > ... for the job. You can use a brick as a hammer (and indeed if it's a small nail and the hammer's in the other room, it makes sense to use ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Aggelos Economopoulos - Feb 12 2008 - 01:56

HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

HAMMER is really shaping up now. Here's what works now: * All filesystem operations * All historical operations * All Pruning features Here's what is left: * freemap code (allocate and free big-blocks, which are 8MB ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Matthew Dillon - Feb 10 2008 - 17:19

Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

Matthew Dillon wrote: > HAMMER is really shaping up now... > This is far, FAR better then the cluster model I was using last week > and had to throw away. Massively better. Like night and day. I'm fond of telling political ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - walt - Feb 10 2008 - 21:41

Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

... the memory footprint and work with super-large filesystems. I don't even want to start thinking about it yet. What HAMMER will provide to the system as a whole is the real-time mirroring aspects, inode numbers and transaction id's ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Matthew Dillon - Feb 10 2008 - 23:27

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... > safe (echo is a shell-builtin, so it is not subject to > the execve argument limit). > > Best regards > ... users to shoot their foot? Which brings up another point. Does HAMMER have a "deleted timestamp" which could be used in an undelete ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Jason Smethers - Feb 11 2008 - 17:19

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... my MH side case is a good example of wanting more argument space, but most of you here have never heard of MH. Maybe HAMMER will find a way to filename glob without taking memory, who knows? I'm no longer arguing for or against this, mostly because ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Dave Hayes - Feb 12 2008 - 04:33

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... think my MH side case is a good example of wanting more argument > space, but most of you here have never heard of MH. Maybe HAMMER will Perhaps, as an "educator", I will educate you on the word 'assume': assume: makes an Ass out of U and Me For ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Chris Turner - Feb 12 2008 - 09:21

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... think my MH side case is a good example of wanting more argument >> space, but most of you here have never heard of MH. Maybe HAMMER will > > Perhaps, as an "educator", I will educate you on the word 'assume': > > assume: makes an Ass out of U and ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Simon 'corecode' Schubert - Feb 12 2008 - 10:05

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... ' Schubert wrote: > Chris Turner wrote: >> Dave Hayes wrote: >>> space, but most of you here have never heard of MH. Maybe HAMMER will > > Excuse me, what? You just said "ass". Nobody else was trolling before. > *ahem* : 1) "most of you ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Chris Turner - Feb 12 2008 - 20:59

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:54:43 +0000, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Dave Hayes wrote: > > Simon Schubert writes: > > > I don't see ANY reason why to increase it. There is simply NO > > > POINT in doing so. It will ALWAYS be a limit. Limit ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Jeremy Messenger - Feb 11 2008 - 23:43

Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

Matthew Dillon wrote: > Here's what is left: > * Structural locking. The B-Tree is fine-grained locked but the > locks for the blockmap are just a hack (one big lock). Have you decided how to implement multi-master replication yet

dragonflybsd-kernel - Jason Smethers - Feb 10 2008 - 22:51

Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

:So -- in this instance you are both the establishment and the revolutionary at :the same time. Could you explain in extra-bonehead language what problems you :were solving with the cluster model, and if you are still solving those problems :with

dragonflybsd-kernel - Matthew Dillon - Feb 10 2008 - 23:21

Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008

Adrian Chadd wrote: > Well, unless someone implements some kernel-space globbing support > (which would be nice for other reasons, alas..) then you may still be > stuck with similar issues. *snip* Per my off-list note, have gotten much of it

dragonflybsd-kernel - Bill Hacker - Feb 11 2008 - 06:34

Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... a limit. That's why xargs(1) exists: "echo * | xargs rm" is safe (echo is a shell-builtin, so it is not subject to the execve argument limit). Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Oliver Fromme - Feb 11 2008 - 08:44

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

* Oliver Fromme wrote: > > A few years ago FreeBSD increased the limit to 256 KB. > I don't know if DragonFly did the same, but it doesn't > matter much Nope, we haven't. Our size is still 65536, FreeBSD has 262144. But I don't see any reason

dragonflybsd-kernel - Matthias Schmidt - Feb 11 2008 - 09:25

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

... > > That's why xargs(1) exists: "echo * | xargs rm" is > safe (echo is a shell-builtin, so it is not subject to > the execve argument limit). > > Best regards > Oliver > Thanks. Point taken. FWIW, I switched to: find /path/to/dir/ - ...

dragonflybsd-kernel - Bill Hacker - Feb 11 2008 - 09:37

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

Matthias Schmidt wrote: > * Oliver Fromme wrote: >> A few years ago FreeBSD increased the limit to 256 KB. >> I don't know if DragonFly did the same, but it doesn't >> matter much > Nope, we haven't. Our size is still 65536, FreeBSD has 262144. >

dragonflybsd-kernel - Simon 'corecode' Schubert - Feb 11 2008 - 10:33

Re: Globbing (was Re: HAMMER update 10-Feb-2008)

Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: > Matthias Schmidt wrote: >> * Oliver Fromme wrote: >>> A few years ago FreeBSD increased the limit to 256 KB. >>> I don't know if DragonFly did the same, but it doesn't >>> matter much >> Nope, we haven't. Our size

dragonflybsd-kernel - Bill Hacker - Feb 11 2008 - 11:12

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