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Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 04:36:34PM -0500, Dave Kleikamp wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 15:38, Frank van Maarseveen wrote: > > Can it do this: > > > > cd FC2-i386-disc1.iso > > ls > > > > or this: > > ...

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 17:48

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... 03, 2004 at 12:02:42AM +0200, Frank van Maarseveen wrote: > > > a) kernel has *NO* *FUCKING* *KNOWLEDGE* of fs type contained on a device ... the point is, the kernel _has_ knowlegde contrary to what you blatantly said. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 18:11

Re: Finding hardlinks

... , 2007 at 08:17:34PM +0100, Mikulas Patocka wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Frank van Maarseveen wrote: > > >On Tue, Jan 02, 2007 at 01: ... for it to jump to 128 bit and more) -- Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line " ...

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Jan 3 2007 - 15:26

Re: Finding hardlinks

... : > On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Frank van Maarseveen wrote: > >Currently, large file support is already necessary to handle dvd and > ... " mount flag/filesystem feature. Lots of possibilities. -- Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the ...

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Jan 3 2007 - 20:12

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... On Mer, 2004-09-01 at 21:50, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > and quite frankly, I think you can do the above pretty much totally in > > user ... -disc1.iso ls or this: cd /dev/sda1 ls cd /dev/floppy ls cd /dev/cdrom ls ? -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 16:38

Re: silent semantic changes with reiser4

... on this list: application developers? I think this is just a disaster waiting for us to occur. > * be able to extract/modify file part on fly. > * be able to store metadata, that doesn't matter on copy those may be orthogonal. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 3 2004 - 04:01

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... , 2004 at 11:00:27PM +0100, viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote: > > The hell it is. > > a) kernel has *NO* *FUCKING* *KNOWLEDGE* of fs type contained on a device. excuse me, but how does the kernel mount the root fs? -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 18:02

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... .co.uk wrote: > > What knowledge does the kernel have about fs type that could deal with the > contents of given device? Details, please. Try a "make tags;grep SUPER_MAGIC tags". Or is it there for a different purpose? -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 18:26

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... might do some more checks but it sure won't do an fsck. The user gets what he deserves when sticking crap in an USB port. And that doesn't mean that the kernel should accept any fs image when a user tries to cd into the file. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 18:56

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... is not an option IMO. Putting it in a preloaded library might be doable except maybe for permission problems but this is incredibly clumsy and lacks the possibility to implement sane caching behavior because it is process bound. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 3 2004 - 04:50

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:50:18AM +0200, I wrote: > and lacks the possibility > to implement sane caching behavior because it is process bound. sorry, this part is crap. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 3 2004 - 04:55

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... subset of file-systems. This is not that much different from an automounter/usermount mounting a USB storage device or cdrom: ext3, ext2, udf, iso9660, vfat, read-only or not, just to name a few things. This should work anyway. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 6 2004 - 04:41

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives

... . > | > | > |> Which still needs to be setup in fstab, right? > > no, in /etc/automount* actually. I have no fstab entry here and still I > can mount various samba shares, cdroms, etc ... but can you access images that way? -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 6 2004 - 09:01

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... cdrom: Not a directory When it doesn't match a (sub)set of known file system types I think. Because that is the area the kernel has knowledge about. Nothing else, no tarballs for example unless of course the kernel has "tarfs" :-) -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 19:41

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... . Either you would have a automount feature or a > filesystem/vfs plugin that could load secondary modules to support > this kind of thing. Why is this so different, compared to your example? They are both filesystem drivers. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 2 2004 - 19:52

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:56:03AM +0200, Tonnerre wrote: > > $ cat fs_header owner_root flags_with_suid evil_program > evil.iso > $ ls -l evil.iso/evil_program It should of course be equivalent to a user mount: nodev nosuid etc. -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 6 2004 - 04:08

Re: The argument for fs assistance in handling archives (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4)

... situations if the > archive is opened by root, but accessed by an user > (thinking of caches and such) See the above. Alternatively, each process could have its own vfsmount (please don't shoot me for suggesting this ;-) -- Frank

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Sep 6 2004 - 08:54

Re: Finding hardlinks

... there. Most tree handling programs ("cp", "rm", ...) break horribly when the tree underneath changes at the same time. -- Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger. ...

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Jan 3 2007 - 14:58

Re: Finding hardlinks

... are either compiled with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 (most already are because of files bigger than 2G) or completely 64 bit. -- Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@ ...

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Jan 3 2007 - 16:26

Re: Finding hardlinks

... for images for virtualization. So the failing stat() calls should already be a thing of the past with modern distributions. -- Frank - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-fsdevel" in the body of a message to majordomo@ ...

linux-fsdevel - Frank van Maarseveen - Jan 3 2007 - 18:01

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