That's not a bad idea... I haven't looked into what accelerometers we have in the FR, but there are plenty of MEMS gyros available; maybe one will have the same or similar pin configuration. I know the gyros and accelerometers made by Analog Devices are very close to pin compatible. Last time I checked (about a year ago), there weren't any 3D MEMS gyros on the market. There was one company offering what was basically 2 2D gyros glued to each other. I think there's some kind of ...

Unfortunately the FreeRunner will not function well as a phone in Australia due to the lack of 3G. The Australian Telcos don't appear to be spending anymore money on pre 3G networks and they may even be pulling some of it out as service is declining badly. I've had to get a 3G handset and carrier just to get consistent phone reception in my unit and I know several people who've had to do the same thing. The future is highly mobile though, so I look forward to a 3G phone running ...

I'm interested to know that too, I haven't played with Trolltechs toolchain yet, but do have MM running. Let us know how it works. Thanks Jim -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

--yH1ZJFh+qWm+VodA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Ah, good point. I just update the rest through opkg upgrade and don't care for consitency between non-qpe and qtopia. So far things only got better from update to update. ;-) Ole --yH1ZJFh+qWm+VodA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 ...

--K8nIJk4ghYZn606h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just want to confirm -- for freerunner should it remain ficgta01 (I don't see any other suitable under devices but usually there are 2 separate images for gta01 and 2 on qtopia's download page) --=20 .-. =3D------------------------------ /v\ ----------------------------=3D Keep in touch // \\ ...

probably not as dependencies and packages would not be the same. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Thank you Ole for the instructions! indeed I could just extract opt/Qtopia from a fresh .jffs image whenever new one becomes available, BUT that would not give me easy way to upgrade the rest of the packages (non-qpe) to the same state as in that image... I am not sure how much that is important though... (events/avahi/mediaserver or whatever else qpe relies on). I wonder if OpenMokoMakefile's qtopia target would substitute your directions for how to build from sources... lets ...

--vv4Sf/kQfcwinyKX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had this too one or two times. Could be that it improved with newer versions but not sure. I'm currently using latest kernel through opkg Could be that you suffer from the `white screen of death' [2]. I sometimes have it when resuming from long suspend. Ole [1] ...

Worked a treat thanks a million David. One step further ;-) _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Its always been like that. You're just using firefox 3 now, and it gives that "error" message to let you know its an untrusted SSL certificate. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

That's not the openmoko site's fault. The problem is exactly as your (Firefox 3?) browser says: the certificate isn't trusted. Which means openmoko didn't pay a 'trusted' third party to get their certificate signed. So if you add the certificate to you list of trusted certificates, all will be fine. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Hello. I wonder if there is something going on with buildhost.openmoko.org. I am unable to update packages list nor install new packages via opkg for two days now. I am unable to wget http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/all/Packages.gz as well. It says "403 Forbidden". On #openmoko@freenode someone said that the server layout is being changed. Is that true? Is there any "temporary workaround"? Kind regards, -- Lech Karol Pawłaszek <ike> "You will never see me fall from ...

I get the same for http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed and some other bits aren't as I remember them. I was trying to get the g_ether package... _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

somebody set us up the bomb! _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Deuce. Any mirrors, or word on when it'll be back up? Aaron _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I have the same problems. Tried with SD removed but makes no difference. | Sometimes when I get a fix with external antenna and unplug it then, the | internal is able to hold the fix; but not always. Internal never gets a | fix on its own. I always found here that external antenna gave a good signal even before we learned that the SD Card could make trouble for the internal one. | I had the FR ...

You say you're using the kernel that came with the phone? I'd try updating it, or removing your SD card. Joseph _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | For those who understand NMEA, I'm seeing the following sequence in a | apparently endless loop: | | $GPRMC,,V,,,,,,,,,,N*53 | $GPVTG,,,,,,,,,N*30 | $GPGGA,,,,,,0,00,99.99,,,,,,*48 | $GPGSA,A,1,,,,,,,,,,,,,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 | $GPGSV,1,1,00*79 | $GPGLL,,,,,,V,N*64 | $GPZDA,,,,,00,00*48 | | For as far I can see, the internal antenna connector is seated well. | | Any ideas? It is indeed ...

I'm using a kernel from 30 July, and my SD card is removed. I'm using the rootfs that came with the phone. (Actually, I've tried several other images, including ASU, but they didn't work either. So I've reverted to the Freerunner release image, but with the recent kernel mentioned. On a sidenote: gsm isn't working either. But _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Is it in a location that's known to have a usable GPS signal? I found that in some locations my Garmin sometimes couldn't get a fix either. If you can do it side by side testing would be useful. Have you tried without the SD card present? While the kernel you have gives reasonable performance with the SD present in my experience, testing without SD would help to narrow things down a bit. Do you have access to an external antenna? ...

While in a meeting, I let the battery run down to 0% (as read by apm) Now when I plug it into usb, I get cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode gives play-only and cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/charger_type gives host/500mA usb mode 100mA Is it charging (at 100ma) and I just need to let it do its thing ? Will the wall charger work better - its at home(!) Or do I need to jump start the battery? :( Shouldnt the phone have shut itself down at 0% as ...

Hi all, I just found Glade (3 years of Linux, 1 mistake in pacman) and I was wondering, is there any plans for a Control Center Application? Does the OM software/firmware actually allow for a Control Center? Would it be possible to flash firmware/send sms'/edit contacts/etc through a Control Center app? Or does it all have to be done through the phone interface? I know it's another thing to think about, but I'm interested and willing to stick my hand up and help the developers if they ...

Not quite, I borrowed a wall charger and it was ok, charged at 1A. USB from my laptop is still 100ma instead of the 500ma it has been previously. My thinking is usb charging is broken and not fixed by the depmod todays kernel needs before networking will work. BillK _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

I guess the link should be http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoko Greetings, silwol. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

hi jordan, we have a project Open Moko PC suite (PoCoMoko) http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pocomoco, that intends exactly your proposal , it's in really early stages (barelly a glade skeleton , some probes with pygtk, , some definitions and a fuzzy todo list all in mails) But I will be glad to share(and translate) with you the few information that we have. feel free to emailme or/and register in the project if your are interested There is other initiative based on gambas Moko-manager, that ...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey, has anyone been able to get gprs working under FSO milestone 2? - -Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIknt7R7UPrMLya90RAnzlAJ9NgJrzoxIEgHHKlGnjvA37M+M8oQCgl7tn oChwaKIOD2pYTEfj8sfFlSA= =PL0y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing ...

Sure: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list) http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment... -- Minh HA-DUONG Chargé de recherche CNRS haduong@centre-cired.fr CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 94 73 70 F94736 ...

Tovarich, can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main menu that opens it in a brower ? Then it will be easy to lobby OM to install it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help / documentation / system manual. Minh -- Minh HA-DUONG Chargé de recherche CNRS haduong@centre-cired.fr CIRED, Campus du Jardin Tropical tel: +33 1 43 94 73 81 45bis ave. de la Belle Gabrielle fax: +33 1 43 ...

Er... I just moved it back to the bottom before reading this email... sorry! I think changing from one language to another inside the page is actually a rare task, as bookmarks can be set directly to the language of choice. It also makes the page look less cluttered :) Aaron _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do that? Does you put jave on server site? _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

I think you're doing a great job. A couple of suggestions: 1) Aesthetics: Could anything be done to make the wiki more visually attractive? Orange and white are the old 1973 colours - shouldn't we have a slick green and black theme or something now that the Freerunner has been released? 2) News feed: A prominent news feed makes the site look both up-to-date and dynamic (particularly to web crawlers :). Perhaps we could have an automated feed updated once a week from relevant RSS/ATOM ...

I dont mind the language on top for this page, but if we can get rid of "Main Page" at the top, that'd be GREAT. Right now, it's taking up a lot of real estate and I don't think we really need the page name for this page. The changes look good. I like how the "intro" is split up, so for people who care most about the license stuff, like developers, when they scroll down a bit, they can see it. Cheers! Justin _______________________________________________ Openmoko community ...

it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the beauty of it -- even search works ;-) -- .-. =------------------------------ /v\ ----------------------------= Keep in touch // \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 ...

Right but this is the main page which new users see first. They need to be able to select their language easily. I can see having all other pages have it on the bottom or not at all. The main page should have it on the top. Many people don't speak english. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Hi Community and Martin (thanks to whom we have this tiddlywiki-based ok -- for now I just added a section to "Download". Indeed some time later link within main menu might be "in place". Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge. Also, lets check with Martin (CCing him): would it be ...

count me as interested! ; -- Jay Vaughan _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Bah. I suppose I should have tested them first. The screen shot app is broken for me and refuses to save valid PNG's. So, no screen shot love for now I am afraid. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

some error about 'cannot convert chunk to ISO-whatever? if so, do 'ln -s /lib/libc.so.6 /lib/libc.so'... _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Those don't display as images... -Steven _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

FWIW, I have a tweaked version of matchbox keyboard and an accompanying layout that is finger capable and still usable in a shell. The layout is based upon the iPhone keyboard (do not hate me!) because I figured they spent many dollars on getting it right. It's by no means perfect but I find it very usable. If that interests anyone, I can post is somewhere. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing ...

No, but you can add one by modifying the profile. I tried to remove as many buttons as possible so the keys could be larger. The intent was not to have every key present, but rather 100% of the ones used 99% of the time. Personally I would only use escape for vi but nano can be installed instead to compensate. -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing ...

Is there an escape button? -Steven _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Done! Hadn't seen that page. I was thinking meetups would involve a pint too :) Will email the list again soon with a suggested meeting time. Menno _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

It would appear so. I got the latest kernel of 2007.2 (and the rootfs with it in my case, but that's because I'm still experimenting with the Openmoko) And it seems to be solved for me. --- Marcel "MadJo" de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freerunner-not-charging--tp662177p663960.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing ...

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> "official release" of ? well, since the subject reads "ASU", william lai is of openmoko and openmoko does officially only asu ... it should not be too hard to guess, shouldn't it? _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Om 2008.8 (ASU) will be available on August 8th. - Will _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks, it's really nice :) I've got 1 bug, when I activate the keyboard (which is really handy for reset/undo/...). In this case, after clicking on a letter (like 'R'), any new point I click is linked to the last previous point clicked. I mean : 1) click & drag *----------* 3) click on a keyboard letter (like 'R') 4) click & drag; I should have *--------* Buut the line start from last point, none ...

Yes. I have seen this too. But only on the FR, not on Linux or MAC OS X. I will check this after my vacation. Michael _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2007.2 : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Switching_Keyboards#How_to_add_a_keyboard_toggle_button - -- Christophe Badoit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIkzpfynEdw4rmTRkRArq6AJsE+kDPL2vcxlwihHimFTnyZuKcaACePqzd rvZr/lfzLaYkZk781i0QEbk= =ohve -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Openmoko community ...

I think you should still be able to get to NOR uboot. That's the whole point of it AFAIK. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting See section "Log into U-Boot in the NOR Flash" -Hans _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

there are several threads regarding this. the included 512mb is supposed to work. with other (4g and 8g) notably have suspend/resume problems been reported, which is worked on. btw: please change the subject appropriately -- it's rather confusing to get a question like that under the heading "updating to last snapshot". even better: open a new thread. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing ...

------=_Part_1468_9689367.1217570306289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Okay so I just did something really stupid.... I nand erased u-boot, kernel, and rootfs and turned off the phone... now it won't boot... what do i do??! L ------=_Part_1468_9689367.1217570306289 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">Okay so I just did ...

------=_Part_7295_2610067.1217606878423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm using the neo1973, so I don't think it has nand? But I'm confused because I definitely used nand in the bootloader prompt. But whenever I boot, I boot into the NOR flash (based on the pictures). I've never booted into NAND flash.But I highly doubt it was my battery because it was at full, and connected to the computer the whole time. Well, I'm a ...

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There is - I've had a look at that code. It doesn't seem *too* hard to change it. I'll give it a try once I get my FR (in 3 weeks or so). regards, Derick -- HEAD before 5_3!: http://tinyurl.com/6d2esb http://derickrethans.nl | http://ezcomponents.org | http://xdebug.org _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that: opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether Installing kernel-module-g-ether (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to root... Downloading http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-module-g-ether_2.6.24+git27+1... Installing kernel-module-cdc-ether (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to ...

Hi Andy, I'm the guy who said that. Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites. So I thought it must be a SNR issue and the capacitor fix is supposed to help on that ... right? This was all guesswork on my part. If somebody could help with how to make observations on GPS performance, I'd be glad to do testing and provide input. The ...

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Well, if this: http://www.invensense.com/products/idg_300.html had three axes instead of two, it would be suitable... it's designed for small size and low cost. All other gyros I've found so far are too big for a mobile phone application. Andreas _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

No, you need both accelerometer *and* gyro measurements for dead reckoning. Andreas _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Andy Green a écrit : |> opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether | | Having updated the kernel and everything, I get a FATAL error with that: | | opkg install kernel-module-g-ether kernel-module-cdc-ether | Installing kernel-module-g-ether | (2:2.6.24+git27+1a95efdc23966343a3b432ceef2f6c24dc0e2052-r2) to root... | ...

------=_Part_89668_4744898.1217549354941 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Andreas, Could the accelerometers be substituted for a 3d gyro? ------=_Part_89668_4744898.1217549354941 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andreas Bogk <span dir="ltr"><<a ...