Thanks jOerg

Michael can we get these instructions ( with pictures) on the wiki
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From: community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org
[mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Joerg Reisenweber
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 5:55 PM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org; linux4u@bluewin.ch
Subject: Re: AW: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full
down

No use in connecting a FR to any source to charge bat, as long as it doesn't
boot up. Actually it drains battery even further, instead of charging.
Battery is only charged when booting succeeds.
Jumpstart the battery is very unlikely to help you out.

Get FR booted by any means
1.:Remove sim-card!
2.:Use wallcharger to startup. 
3:borrow battery, apply 4.5V (<5V!!!) to + and minus of battery connector in
FR. 
After 5~10sec FR should come up and you don't need startup-battery or
4.5V-power-source any more - remove it! FR should run happily from
wallcharger.
Now *don't* power down, and insert dead battery. battery is going to charge
now.

Alternative way: find a charger for nokia-bat, or even use an old nokia to
charge dead battery. e.g. 6230i. If you find a friend who could lend a
battery to you, maybe he might prefer to take your bat and charge it for a
short while.

sorry for the inconvenience. 
Usually we shouldn't see "dead" batteries. We expect to fix the
deep-discharge of bat at software side. 
The problems with no startup on dead bat are partially a hw-issue. Though
Werner has a new u-boot that might help (coming soon), especially when you
got a device that flashes red aux-led (good sign!).

cheers
jOERG


Am So  13. Juli 2008 schrieb linux4u@bluewin.ch:
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> ok...I`ll wait for Michael`s explanation...
> thx
> 
> ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----
> Von: steve@openmoko.com
> Datum: 13.07.2008 17:16
> An: "List for Openmoko community 
> discussion"<community@lists.openmoko.org>,
<linux4u@bluewin.ch>
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> Kopie: "Michael Shiloh"<michael@openmoko.org>
> Betreff: RE: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full 
> down
> 
> If your battery falls below a certain level then FreeRunner sometimes 
> will not charge it.
> 
> We are working on fixes for this but in the short term you have these 
> options.
> 
> 
> 1. Jump start your battery. Michael will explain how, Takes 5 seconds.
> 2. Get a stand alone battery charger from Nokia ( for battery types 
> 4bl, 5bl, 6bl) 3. Get a replacement battery.
> 
>  
> 
> Steve
> 
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> [mailto:community-bounces@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of arne anka
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 7:32 AM
> To: linux4u@bluewin.ch; List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: unable to start up freerunner after batterie was full 
> down
> 
> while surfing the device-owners list i've stumbled over this:
> 
> > Sometimes it happened (I think to all of us! ;) ) that NEO1973's 
> > battery goesfully discharged, and for this I follow the instruction 
> > on the wiki pages(detach battery 20 seconds, attach to USB, wait 1 
> > hour, start the Phone).
> 
> anyway -- the guy posting this seemed to have killed his battery (not 
> finished the thread yet).
> regarding you usb-only: maybe your usb port does not supply 500mAh?
> 
> btw: your leds flash? mine do nothing -- is this related to the asu image?
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