Re: GPS

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From: Mikko Rauhala
Subject: Re: GPS
Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 4:05 am

su, 2008-07-13 kello 03:48 -0700, Russell Sears kirjoitti:

Doesn't just seem to, it does need a better signal. And yeah, being able
to restore that data and/or get it from the network should provide much
quicker first fixes. From #openmoko:
<DocCod> cold start: like 10 minutes for a fix
<DocCod> agps data feeded immediately after start: fix in 1 minute or less
<DocCod> between 2 tall buildings, btw

Anyway, as for the GPS problems some are having, I got a fix relatively
quickly on a phone another guy had problems with from the first Finnish
group batch. The difference mostly that he used some of the frontends
and I grepped the device node directly. So there might've been some
software glitches at work with eg. gsmd getting confused at the chip
output (which includes large amounts of those spurious error messages
and stuff). (Of course, it _might_ have been a flaky but not
consistently faulty connection too; we'll keep an eye on the device if
it starts acting up again.)

So anyone who's having GPS problems should probably make sure it's
hardware by checking out the GPS chip output at the lowest level by
doing something like:

echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron
grep GPGGA /dev/ttySAC1

And seeing if there'll be fix-looking data within, say, 10 minutes to be
sure, on a decent exposure of the sky. (You can do that remotely in a
screen session and then attach to it with "screen -dr" from the OpenMoko
terminal to make it easier to type it in but still get the output from
the Neo.) See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS on what a fix looks
like.

Hope this helps someone.

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GPS, Yorick Matthys, (Mon Jun 23, 9:32 am)
Re: GPS, Joseph Reeves, (Mon Jun 23, 10:21 am)
Re: GPS, Peter Kraker, (Mon Jun 23, 2:15 pm)
Re: GPS, Kai Römer, (Fri Jul 4, 7:32 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Sun Jul 6, 9:12 am)
Re: GPS, Kai Römer, (Mon Jul 7, 12:40 am)
Re: GPS, Kevin Zuber, (Mon Jul 7, 3:07 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Mon Jul 7, 3:26 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Mon Jul 7, 3:34 am)
Re: GPS, Kai Römer, (Mon Jul 7, 4:39 am)
Re: GPS, Federico Lorenzi, (Mon Jul 7, 5:06 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Mon Jul 7, 7:37 am)
Re: GPS, Mathias Ballner, (Mon Jul 7, 9:24 am)
Re: GPS, Marcus Bauer, (Mon Jul 7, 10:04 am)
Re: GPS, Yogiz, (Mon Jul 7, 10:56 am)
Re: GPS, Francesco Cat, (Mon Jul 7, 11:47 am)
Re: GPS, Chris, (Mon Jul 7, 1:33 pm)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Mon Jul 7, 2:40 pm)
Re: GPS, thomasg, (Mon Jul 7, 2:47 pm)
Re: GPS, Joerg Reisenweber, (Mon Jul 7, 4:35 pm)
Re: GPS, W.Kenworthy, (Mon Jul 7, 6:25 pm)
Re: GPS, W.Kenworthy, (Mon Jul 7, 7:02 pm)
Re: GPS, Francesco Cat, (Mon Jul 7, 11:50 pm)
Re: GPS, AVee, (Tue Jul 8, 2:11 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Tue Jul 8, 2:37 am)
Re: GPS, Tilman Baumann, (Tue Jul 8, 3:05 am)
Re: GPS, flexd, (Tue Jul 8, 4:09 am)
Re: GPS, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu), (Tue Jul 8, 4:17 am)
Re: GPS, Jay Vaughan, (Tue Jul 8, 4:19 am)
Re: GPS, flexd, (Tue Jul 8, 4:24 am)
Re: GPS, flexd, (Tue Jul 8, 4:36 am)
Re: GPS, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu), (Tue Jul 8, 4:42 am)
Re: GPS, Marcus Bauer, (Tue Jul 8, 4:42 am)
Re: GPS, AVee, (Tue Jul 8, 4:42 am)
Re: GPS, matt joyce, (Tue Jul 8, 4:52 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Tue Jul 8, 10:31 am)
Re: GPS, Chris, (Tue Jul 8, 10:58 am)
RE: GPS, steve, (Tue Jul 8, 12:57 pm)
Re: GPS, Chaosspawn23, (Tue Jul 8, 11:11 pm)
German getting started, simarillion, (Tue Jul 8, 11:56 pm)
Re: GPS, Jeffrey Ratcliffe, (Wed Jul 9, 10:57 pm)
Re: GPS, Thomas Gstädtner, (Thu Jul 10, 1:19 am)
Re: GPS, Alexander Paersch, (Fri Jul 11, 4:36 am)
Re: GPS, Jeffrey Ratcliffe, (Fri Jul 11, 4:50 am)
Re: GPS, Alexey Feldgendler, (Fri Jul 11, 5:07 am)
Re: GPS, Torfinn Ingolfsen, (Fri Jul 11, 6:02 am)
Re: GPS, Ole Kliemann, (Fri Jul 11, 10:57 am)
Re: GPS, Tobias Diedrich, (Fri Jul 11, 11:56 am)
Re: GPS, Russell Sears, (Fri Jul 11, 2:34 pm)
Re: GPS, Bumbl, (Fri Jul 11, 2:57 pm)
Re: GPS, andres, (Fri Jul 11, 3:43 pm)
Re: GPS, Russell Sears, (Fri Jul 11, 4:00 pm)
Re: GPS, Russell Sears, (Fri Jul 11, 10:56 pm)
Re: GPS, Jonathan Spooner, (Sat Jul 12, 2:25 am)
Re: GPS, William Kenworthy, (Sat Jul 12, 5:11 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Sat Jul 12, 5:49 am)
Re: GPS, Ole Kliemann, (Sat Jul 12, 7:27 am)
Re: GPS, Jim Morris, (Sat Jul 12, 1:59 pm)
Re: GPS, Yorick Moko, (Sun Jul 13, 2:50 am)
Re: GPS, Russell Sears, (Sun Jul 13, 3:48 am)
Re: GPS, Mikko Rauhala, (Sun Jul 13, 4:05 am)
Re: GPS, Ole Kliemann, (Sun Jul 13, 6:00 am)
Re: GPS, arne anka, (Sun Jul 13, 6:39 am)
Re: GPS, BlueStar88, (Sun Jul 13, 10:14 am)
Re: GPS, Joerg Reisenweber, (Sun Jul 13, 10:21 am)
Re: GPS, Russell Sears, (Sun Jul 13, 3:36 pm)
Re: GPS, Timo Jyrinki, (Mon Jul 14, 1:18 am)
Re: GPS, thomasg, (Mon Jul 14, 1:34 am)
Re: GPS, Kalle Kärkkäinen, (Mon Jul 14, 1:45 am)
Re: GPS, Kai Römer, (Mon Jul 14, 2:08 am)
Re: GPS, BlueStar88, (Mon Jul 14, 4:22 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Mon Jul 14, 5:41 am)
Re: GPS, thomasg, (Mon Jul 14, 6:05 am)
Re: GPS, Yorick Moko, (Mon Jul 14, 6:39 am)
Re: GPS, Timo Jyrinki, (Mon Jul 14, 6:49 am)
Re: GPS, Jay Vaughan, (Mon Jul 14, 7:23 am)
Re: GPS, thomasg, (Mon Jul 14, 9:20 am)
Re: GPS, C R McClenaghan, (Mon Jul 14, 9:26 am)
Re: GPS, arne anka, (Mon Jul 14, 9:42 am)
Re: GPS, Al Johnson, (Mon Jul 14, 10:06 am)
Re: GPS, thomasg, (Mon Jul 14, 10:06 am)
Re: GPS, C R McClenaghan, (Mon Jul 14, 10:46 am)
Re: GPS, arne anka, (Mon Jul 14, 10:54 am)
Re: GPS, C R McClenaghan, (Mon Jul 14, 11:26 am)