Hey guys,
fully in the spirit of "release early, release often" we want to

announce hackable:1, a new distribution for the Neo and other hackable

devices.
What is hackable:1 ?

====================
Hackable:1 is based on the DebianOnFreerunner but packaging the

OM2007.2 applications, extending and bugfixing them. It is intended to

become a stable platform for the VAR market and fun to use for

everybody else.
The important part is that hackable:1 is not only open to community

contributions but we are actively encouraging them and we do the full

development in public on IRC channels and mailing lists - no decisions

behind closed doors, no sudden changes of directions. We want to

produce a stable, linearly evoluting platform.
Hackable:1 is running from 2GB SD cards simply because they have

become so cheap that there is little reason to fiddle with the

restrictions of the limited space of the built-in flash. Therefore we

can ship with a full set of development tools ready installed to

get you started with mobile development in minutes. No more need to

wait 20 hours until Openembedded is finished with its set up. No more

need for flashing - but we will also soon provide a flash image for

those of you who need the space on the SD card for other things.
We have a full LAMP stack too, for those countless of you out there who

are more proficient with PHP than C or C++.
Not to forget that you can make phone calls and send SMS... And you can

even print. Get yourself a USB gender changer and connect your printer

to the Neo. It works - beat that all you iPhonies out there! (A gender

changer is just a few dollars on ebay).
Then what have we done so far?

==============================
Some of the highlights:
 * we packaged OM2007.2 as .deb packages: dialer, sms, contacts, neod,

   phone-kit, gsmd, matchbox, panel applets

 * we improved sound quality (fixes for gsmd for echo cancellation)

 * another fix for gsmd to suppress the reregistering of some phones

   (OM b...
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Le Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:33 +0100,
What is the VAR market ?

Is it related to this :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_at_risk
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Everything's at risk in the current global financial state ;-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_Added_Reseller
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Is the GPS+SD card problem solved yet?
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Yes, the fix is in the kernel switching of the SD clock when the card

is idle. I got a fix under rainy sky in the city in 3 minutes.
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That was solved a long time ago.
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Hi,
why do we need another distribution? The better solution would be to

include the packages into debian, isn't it? This way everyone benefits.
One of your goals seems to be the prebuild tarball. I've downloaded

one some time ago and found an authorized_keys file in root's .ssh

directory. I guess it was just accidentally included, but... huuu...
Greetings,

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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:51:13 +0100
Technically it is not really another distribution. It is the port of the

GTK phone and PIM suite onto Debian and thus rather close to GNOME

Mobile. thus
 a) it is a home for GTK hackers and C hackers while still open

    to C++, Python or whatever else you like

 b) we are stabilizing the platform so that VARs start to see the

    Freerunner as a serious base which is good for Openmoko

 c) we are working on making it usable as a phone which is good
I have done one and a half years of flashing over and over again and

I'm so sick of it ;-)
The tarball is a great way to install in minutes a distribution

without need for dfu-util or problems with servers. Once it is there,

you can upgrade single packages with apt-get.
In any case, flash images will follow.
Marcus
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Sounds cool!  So, given that I already have Debian on SD, could I just
- add your repository to /etc/apt/sources.list
- sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install <the-hackable-umbrella-package>
?
If not now, is that a feasible aim for the near future?
Thanks,

    Neil
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:15:21 +0000
Right now there are a couple of things which are not yet in a package,

most notably the X session start. But for a clean future development it

is a necessity that everything sits inside a package and then you can

update directly from debian.
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Thanks, that will be fantastic.  Debian is already wonderfully

hackable, but not so good on the use-as-a-phone front, so it sounds

like Debian+your "hackable" will be just the ticket.
     Neil
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quote:
    Current issues
Messages starts but does not send the message -> minor dbus issue

if it is minor, do you guys have any idea how long it will take to

resolve the issue
and i am confused:

some of the things you mentioned as features are still in the "open

tasks" section of the wiki.

is the wiki outdated? (i already took a look at the wiki about 10 days ago).
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Thanks for the hint, this was only about the old rev1. SMS works in the
This got just updated too. Thanks again for the hint.
Marcus
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Hi Marcus,
xserver-xorg or xserver-nodm?
Rui
ps: didn't find you the next day at SAPO CodeBits, oh well... hope you

enjoyed your stay in Portugal :)
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Hey guys,<br>

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fully in the spirit of &quot;release early, release often&quot; we want to<br>

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