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Petr Vanek
Re: [android] usb keyboard

so i have tried and no luck either yet - i commented out all the ifup
usb0 related stuff, turned usb host on but no... what i noticed though
is that after fr get's usb plugged in it starts charging. this means
that something turned it back to device mode. i might try to run the
host mode script delayed or even to repeat...

Petr

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Nov 8, 3:03 pm 2008
nacho seijo
python-etk

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Hi list!

I was reading about using python to write applications on openmoko in the
wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Python and I liked the sample with python-etk.

So as member of FDOM group, I'd like to rewrite the FDOM submenus with
python-etk instead
python-gtk. Could someone recommend me some documentation to develop
applications with python-...

Nov 8, 1:24 pm 2008
Marcel
Re: python-etk

Take a look at the wiki, I started a collection of EFL/ETK related links
there. The page was named "EFL Documentation" iirc...

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Nov 8, 1:48 pm 2008
nacho seijo
Re: python-etk

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Thank you very much.
I have taken a look to the links and I think they could be really useful I

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Nov 8, 2:09 pm 2008
Bernd Prünster
Accelerometer in Java

Hiho!
Few years went on since i had to bother with such simple issues, but i
played arounf for some time and didn't get anywhere ( i have no clue
what to do)
my question is: how do i read our data from the accelerometers in java?
my first approach was to use and modify the pothon script from
wiki.openmoko.org, execute it and read the output, but that's not a
desirable way!

so i'm asking to give me a hint how to directly read the accelerometer
output. (it's gotta be possible without jni and t...

Nov 8, 10:28 am 2008
Sudharshan S
Re: Accelerometer in Java

I think, there are DBus bindings for java. So you could probably take a look
at the services offered by FSO for reading accelerometers output.
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Nov 8, 10:45 am 2008
Timo Juhani Lindfors
Re: Accelerometer in Java

Wouldn't that cause huge overhead? Reading 100 (or 400) events per
second from two accelometers can not be smooth over dbus.

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Nov 8, 10:59 am 2008
Sudharshan S
Re: Accelerometer in Java

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On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors

Hi,
Agreed, but frameworkd doesn't send DBus signals continously. Instead it
gives accelerometer values on demand with a method call (which in fact opens
the device nodes and unpacks the values from the input_event struct). But
sending a DBus signal when the co-ordinates change would be awesome as...

Nov 8, 11:42 am 2008
Timo Juhani Lindfors
Re: Accelerometer in Java

You open the file[1] and read data[2].

[1] /dev/input/event{2,3}
[2] data is a steady flow of

struct input_event {
struct timeval time;
__u16 type;
__u16 code;
__s32 value;
};

See linux-2.6.26/Documentation/input/input.txt for more info.

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Nov 8, 10:45 am 2008
Pander
USB keyboard udev rule

Hi all,

Does anyone have a udev rule for USB keyboard that does the following.
When no external USB devices are connected and a keyboard is plugged in,
USB can switch to host mode and switch back when USB keyboard is
unplugged. As far as I'm concerned, this would be a very welcome feature.

Thanks,

Pander

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Nov 8, 8:37 am 2008
Paul
(Debian) XFCE... no /etc/init.d/zhone-session?

I am trying to set up XFCE, following the info on
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian

Since the install of last night, default things are working well, but
after apt-getting the XFCE packages there's something amiss:

cp /etc/init.d/zhone-session /etc/init.d/xfce shouts at me that there is no file called zhone-session.

As that is already a stopper, there's no use in trying to continue. Does
someone have a smart idea on what to do next? It may be a problem
('feature') of the experimental i...

Nov 8, 8:14 am 2008
arne anka
Re: (Debian) XFCE... no /etc/init.d/zhone-session?

when using xfce zhone-session is meaningless -- instead use nodm and
create ~/.xsession accordingly.
wiki and archives should offer plenty of information if needed, but i
think nodm includes a README describing which steps to take.

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Nov 8, 10:01 am 2008
Davide Scaini
Re: (Debian) XFCE... no /etc/init.d/zhone-session?

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silly answer:
sudo apt-get install zhone-session
?!?
ciao
d

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Nov 8, 9:55 am 2008
Marian Flor
Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

Hello list members,
here another FR success story: Booting and usage of a large 16GB SDHC
works!

My configuration and recipe:
- QtExtend on flash
- Debian on microSD (ext2+ext2) [1]
- u-boot daily (8 Nov 2008) from [2]
- Applied configure-uboot.sh from [3]
- Kernel for Debian from [4] (but the kernel should not matter)
- microSD card:
Vendor: SanDisk
Model: SDSDQ-016G-E11M
Size: 16GB
Speed: Class2

With this configuration I encountered first this error (output from
minicom, /dev/...

Nov 8, 7:47 am 2008
Paul
Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

Wow!! Good show!!!

Paul

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Nov 8, 7:58 am 2008
Petr Vanek
Re: Optimization team update (11/02 ~ 11/08)

>Hi community,

Hi John Lee, thank you for the great update :) Great work, thank you!
I haven't tried yet but today want to download the testing "quick boot

While you are working on suspend is there any plan to look at the WSOD
- #1841? Lately, even dimming causes WSOD so not only that suspend
isn't possible but even dim is not an option anymore... there is no way
to conserve the batteries... and this makes the FR even less usable as
a device for PDA (not even talking phone yet).

As this con...

Nov 8, 7:28 am 2008
Petr Vanek
Re: [android] Answer calll problems

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:09:31 -0500
Joel Newkirk <freerunner@newkirk.us> (JN)

plus, we still have the accelerators so using the same logic as has been
presented several days ago (flip upside down for silencing etc...)
could also help before anything else is available.

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Nov 8, 7:01 am 2008
John Lee
Optimization team update (11/02 ~ 11/08)

Hi community,

A brief summary of what the optimization team did last week:

Erin worked on qtopia to improve the network registering time.

Qtopia 4.3.2: camp network about 26~36 sec and it would display 'No
Network' on screen before that.

Qt extended 4.4.2: 40 sec from qpe main() to Ready [black screen
first, home screen 20 sec]

Qtopia 4.3.2 + X11 [17 + 52 sec before, 52 sec -12 -20 = 30 sec,
by applying two patches]
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Nov 8, 12:19 am 2008
Tim Dobson
Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about
Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a
short presentation, five minutes before it started.

It wasn't very good, but it got a message across - a message that a
Freerunner + FDOM = a smartphone that worked as a smartphone.

Today, I sat down and went through the presentation, improved it a bit,
and put it more into the style I like to do presentations in. :)

You can find my improved presentatio...

Nov 7, 8:24 pm 2008
Paul
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

Fantastic!! I have my own 'freerunner experience' webpage, is it okay if
I link to your PDF-presentation from there?

Paul

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Nov 8, 3:47 am 2008
Tim Dobson
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

You can do anything you want with it under the Creative Commons BY-SA
3.0 licence.

Linking is fine! :)

Tim

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Nov 8, 7:25 pm 2008
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

A Wiki page should be setup with this presentation and translations as
well.

I will try to make a pt_PT translation.

Rui

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Nov 7, 8:35 pm 2008
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at:

http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/

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Nov 7, 9:08 pm 2008
Tim Dobson
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

Wow!

This has really made my day! :D

Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating!

Tim

P.S. I added your translation to
http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/

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Nov 7, 9:34 pm 2008
David Samblas
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

Count with an Spanish translation in short too :)

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Nov 8, 7:38 am 2008
David Samblas
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM
focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions...
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Nov 8, 8:07 am 2008
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

Yes, it would be nice if it didn't just focus on FDOM, but huge extra
points if the style is maintained. It's great for talking while using
remoko to advance the slides as you talk :)

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Nov 8, 8:15 am 2008
Timo Juhani Lindfors
Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.

Don't use wifi :-)

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Nov 8, 7:02 am 2008
William Kenworthy
Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.

Happened again today while I had time to play. events/0 reached 60% at
times, though mostly 30% in top - I noticed it because I suddenly
realised the phone was getting noticeably hot in my pocket (visions of
those flaming laptops popped into my mind :) - oddly, the battery wasnt
any hotter than the rest of the phone, though the screen did seem so
(perhaps whatever is behind the screen?)

Started playing with the wireless (just running the connect/disconnect
scripts) and events/0 went back close to ...

Nov 8, 7:32 am 2008
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.

It's hot because of the intense activity, not because of the battery.

The poor battery just get's an usage that drains it's poor life away,

Although wireless may help kickstart that bug, I don't believe it's the
cause.

I'm don't use wireless on the Freerunner yet, ifconfig only shows lo and
usb0, and still I have had to reboot to fix the events/0 bug.

Rui

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Nov 8, 7:50 am 2008
Paul
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules

It was indeed the frameworkd problem. I ran the install command
(apt-get --reinstall install fso-config-gta02)
and presto, things started and are working! Including the OpenMoko
panel, which is a really nice job.

Now onward to installing XFCE, as that is quite nice to have, I noticed. :-)

Paul

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Nov 8, 7:37 am 2008
Sebastian Ohl
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

Hi,

The usb icon vanished because we don't get it working as indented. You still
can't switch the usb modes... but sudo should be a good solution the
xscreensaver oder xlock should do the trick. when the powerbutton becomes
more configurable it should be easy to alter the behavoir to lock the
screen.
regards
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Nov 8, 6:44 am 2008
Fox Mulder
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5

What exactly is the problem with switching usb mode?
I can switch between device and host mode in the console without
problems. Only the gadget things doesn't work right at the moment.
Isn't it possible to just implement the switch between usb device and
host mode with altering the corresponsing sysfs files like done manual
in the console?

And where can i follow the changelog between the new
openmoko-panel-plugin versions?

Ciao,
Rainer

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Nov 8, 7:14 am 2008
Timo Juhani Lindfors
Re: GPG for SMS?

I thought they are encrypted just like calls. I asked this on
#gnuradio too:

18:36 < lindi-> hi, i looked at the openbts SMS stack to figure out if
SMS messages are encrypted or not but could not figure it out. Any
idea if they are?

http://sites.google.com/site/smscrypt/files/SMSCryptLiteDemo.zip?attredi...

does not seem to contain any source code or copyright information.

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Nov 8, 7:02 am 2008
rhn
Re: Re: GPG for SMS?

If they are encrypted, they probably are encrypted on the way to the operator only, so the operator can probably see the content.

About calls - I remember I saw a documentary in which the calls interfered with TV sets, which allowed to hear the conversations. That would imply unencrypted.

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Nov 8, 7:11 am 2008
Timo Juhani Lindfors
Re: GPG for SMS?

That sounds quite unlikely, even if you had configured your GSM to
send the data without encryption how would your analog TV set
decompress the digital (and compressed) audio stream?

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Nov 8, 7:31 am 2008
rhn
Re: Re: GPG for SMS?

It might have been a hoax as well. If I remember it right, it was the operator's fault. From the video footage, only some words were understandable.
On the other hand, I remember watching "encoded" audio + video from a locked channel with a satellite tuner. The quality is *very* poor, but it can be understood at times.

I believe nowadays TV sets are sold with the circuitry to decode digital data (the switching to digital land infrastructure), but I don't remember if it was the case there.

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Nov 8, 7:42 am 2008
Matthias Apitz
Re: [Om2008.9] hints and results about using GPS on/with FR

I have a photo here which shows how the 'gpsd' in the FR supports at the
same time the tangoGPS in the FR and in the laptop:

http://www.unixarea.de/20081108-164226.jpg

I did a small walk in my town having the FR connected to my eeePC 900
laptop. Nice, isn't it? :-)

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Nov 8, 12:11 pm 2008
Robin Paulson
Re: [Om2008.9] hints and results about using GPS on/with FR

which repo is gpsdcontrol in? i'm running 2008.9 and it's not found by opkg

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Nov 7, 11:45 pm 2008
Matthias Apitz
Re: [Om2008.9] hints and results about using GPS on/with FR

I've fetched this from
http://projects.openmoko.org/
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/gpsdcontrol/

HIH

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Nov 8, 3:30 am 2008
Chris Samuel
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

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Yup, just seen that in the QT Extended sources in:

devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp

Looking at the code in that file I'm wondering if a better place to put the
command to set the echo suppression is in NeoSimInfo::requestIdentity()
as that seems to be called occasionally to get the SIM info.

Alternatively it could g...

Nov 8, 10:00 am 2008
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Hi,

there's a new version of OpenMoko's first composing software out now,
released on http://opkg.org/ none the less! :-)

http://www.opkg.org/package_34.html

There are now eight separate tracks to record your jam-session in using the
surface.

Note, the jam can not be saved right now.. I'm working on that, though.. And
I'm
also working on a r...

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