hi,

this ticket (http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2082) said that the 
"no icons bug" is fixed since 4 days.
But there isn't an update in the unstable or testing tree.  (they are 
still "svnr36882". )

How long does it need to get into unstable / testing ?
Because the updates in the kernel-git (stable) showing up in the 
unstable-feeds 1 day after the patch is send to the git.

So should i say something if these changes are not showing up after 4 
days in the unstbale tree or is normal and should i be quiet and wait 
for it ? :)

cu
Beni


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Flashing the images for 26/27 and 28 showed icons.  Unusable for me
though as only the 26th ever registered (rarely, seems to be due to
installing the gsm mux by default - none of the distros I tried that
uses it works for me) and then the illume theme continually segv's which
is a real pain.

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His question was not about flashing though - it was about whether
running opkg update will get you these fixes.

I also thought the testing images corresponded to the latest packages
you can get from "opkg update" with the testing repositories setup as
specified here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#The_bleeding_edge:_Om_.22base_.2F_empty.22_images

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i also have the illume theme installed, because of the keyboard.
no icons. but the phone works fine.
if i start start an application like qtmail it works. it also recives 
calls etc. and brings up the right application
for all that.

just no icons on the desktop, and no entrys in the running application 
drop down list.

i don't wonna reflash the phone if i don't realy have to ....
i am a  little bit tyred of installing all the apps again, and again , 
and again :)

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but like i said, there was no update with a  "opk update && opkg 
upgrade"  for the illume packages.






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with the gsm0710muxd  you need qtopia to know about it.
so in the file  "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia" there must be something 
like this:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
identvar=$(date +%s)
ptsvar=$(dbus-send --system --print-reply --type=method_call 
--dest=org.pyneo.muxer /org/pyneo/Muxer 
org.freesmartphone.GSM.MUX.AllocChannel string:$identvar | grep string | 
awk -F '"' '{ print $2 }')
export QTOPIA_PHONE_DEVICE=$ptsvar

# Now start Qtopia
echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
/usr/bin/app-restarter "$QTOPIA_MESSAGE" qpe 2>&1 | logger &
------------------------------------------------------------------------

this is with the angstrom gsm0710muxd,  maybe you need some other 
"--dest" params with an other muxd version.






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Yeah did that, both manually and cut&pasted the FDOM equivalent.  I can
talk to the mux and chipset at times, but at others it seems
unresponsive.

BillK

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While this problem is not solved, maybe you could downgrade to 'stable'.

I have never done this, it is a bit rough, but you could try if you want :

First put Om2008.8 in your /etc/opkg/*conf files (instead of testing)

Then 'opkg update' to update your list of packages

Then create the list of packages you want to downgrade :
     opkg list_installed | grep svnr36882 | cut -d ' ' -f 1 > down.txt

Then remove these packages :
     cat down.txt | while read r; do
         opkg -force-depends remove $r
     done

Then reinstall them :
     cat down.txt | while read r; do
         opkg install $r
     done

Now you should have downgraded everything.

I don't think it's too hazardous, because it seems to be an 
X/Enlightenment problem, not a kernel/system one.

Of course if someone thinks this will *not* work, please tell us why 
before someone tries.

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Ok it works, you just have to remove your ~/.e because it has been 
upgraded to svnr36882 version

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thx.
worked for me.




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A recent update to testing showed this bug still occurs in my situation.

So I just wanted to share a little update relative to downgrade commands 
from my previous mail : because opkg accepts more than one package's 
name as argument, we can speed up the whole thing by making far less calls.

which is sequential, you can do :
     cat down.txt | xargs opkg -force-depends remove

you can do :
     cat down.txt | xargs opkg install


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the icon problem should be solved.
 try

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opkg -force-depends remove illume-config illume-config-asu
opkg install illume-theme-asu

stop the xserver
remove "~/.e"
start the xserver
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with the illume theme there is another problem. it is crashing all the 
time, until you change the engine.
so for the illume package you need to do this:

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opkg -force-depends remove illume-config illume-config-asu
opkg install illume-config-illume illume-theme-illume

stop the xserver
remove "~/.e"
start the xserver
go into the configuration page (with the icon in the upper left corner 
and not with the settings icon on the desktop)
select engine
select the "software" engine (not the default selected "software_16").
close all
restart xserver
-----------------

the background is now in grey and the menue drop down is not really what 
i want, but i have querty again. and i have working icons. so i could 
use my phone again. but they still have to go their way until 2008.11 :)

b



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the only supported combination is

illume-theme-asu + illume

if you got stuffs like illume-config, illume-config-asu, please remove
them.  illume-theme-asu comes with both config and theme files.  it
does NOT include 'qwerty' button and 'wrench' config.

I have also seen the illume default combination works:

illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume

notice that config and theme comes in different packages here.  it
DOES include qwerty and wrench.

the way to switch between different sets of config and theme is to set
it in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile .  this is ugly and
will/should be solved in upstream soon.

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the way to fix this bug is not updating to another svn rev which might
introduce other unexpected behaviors due to the massive changes in EFL
recently.  instead we stick to this 36882 and fix problems there.

I don't think we will upgrade efl rev before we have another efl
snapshot/release.  following some random rev in svn trunk tree is
proved to be a very very bad idea.

the current stuffs in testing repo works for me and our testing team
and also for other engineers.  so I bet there's something wrong in the
upgrade path or your theme/config combination.

the only supported combination is

illume-theme-asu + illume

if you got stuffs like illume-config, illume-config-asu, please remove
them.  illume-theme-asu comes with both config and theme files.  it
does NOT include 'qwerty' button and 'wrench' config.

I have also seen the illume default combination works:

illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume

notice that config and theme comes in different packages here.  it
DOES include qwerty and wrench.

the way to switch between different sets of config and theme is to set
it in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile .  this is ugly and
will/should be solved in upstream soon.

after you make sure your efl related stuff and illume related packages
are correct (check with opkg list_installed | grep illume), stop x
server, rm -rf ~/.e, start x server.

since the next stable release will be the first one that comes
directly from a branch of om.dev, the upgrade path from stable
(i.e. om2008.9) will need a lot of testing.  our beloved testing team
will help.


FYI:

at the moment the 'settings' app in testing repo still got error (not
scrolling), this is a known issue.  however one can still set the
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Thanks for the update John!

Now I have icons again - it works with the asu theme, but with the
illume default theme enlightenment keeps crashing - oh well :)

Also, the settings app doesn't start at all.

Still this is a great improvement!

- Gunnar



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