Re: Allegations regarding OpenBSD IPSEC

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From: Theo de Raadt
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010 - 8:59 am

As for promoting his company, someone yesterday showed me this:

http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?action=DETREG&docnum=G09000158184&rd...


Whoa, wait a second here.  If you think I gave it credibility, you
need to go back and read my words again.  I called it an allegation,
and I stick with that.  I was extremely careful with my words, and you
are wrong to interpret them as you do.

From: Marc Espie
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010 - 10:39 am

Theo, it's hopeless. Kids these days. Can't read, can't code.

If you write anything, you can be certain they will take it out of context.
They don't understand what a context is.

Heck, they will use the excuse that they're "not native speakers" to say
they misunderstood.

I mean, why should they make the effort ? it's so easier to take a rumor
out of context, not verify the source, not verify what it says and run
with it.

There's NEVER an excuse for mediocrity.  I'm not a native speaker, Theo
isn't either.  That's not a good reason for not understanding/not writing
english.

That's the same with code, just because you learnt to program with a bad
crowd is no excuse for most of the linux and java code out there. ;-)

From: Daniel E. Hassler
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010 - 12:21 pm

I agree with Marc - "it's hopeless"  We live in a world where spin is 
king. Anything you say can and will be twisted against you.


From: Pawel Veselov
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010 - 11:09 am

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Theo de Raadt <deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org>
wrote:


Look, if somebody like me posted something like this here, it would be just
plain dismissed. If Perry posted his email here, he'd just be under fire to
show some or any proof. The reason this was so widely picked up
and generated so much flame and buzz, is because you posted it here.
It's an unfortunate consequence of a right action, really. I'm not even
remotely saying that you intended to give it weight, or that you
should've swept it under the rug.

From: Siju George
Date: Friday, December 17, 2010 - 8:16 pm

So it is good that Theo posted it here.
He is serious about this allegation. Serious about proving if it is
true or false.
He has opened the invitation to any in order to acheive the objective.
And he and others are dong the needful the outcome of which you will

Well may be Theo does not fell the urge to push away responsibility on others?
Being the project leader he is doing just what a responsible and


Then waht are you tring to say?

thanks

--Siju

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