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|---|---|---|
| Opus Développement | Mas en pierres - "Provence"
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| Aug 6, 6:36 am 2010 |
| patrick keshishian | Glitches with (some?) X apps
Hi,
With macppc snapshot install from Aug 3rd I was able to, once again,
run firefox (v 3.6.8). But there are some drawing glitches in the UI.
The Gimp port finally finished building and it too is demonstrating
similar artifacts. They resemble the color shifts one would see when
using apps that install their own colormap, but not quite.
I'm not certain if this is an X issue or if the problem is at a higher
level in the app or the toolkit (gtk+2). I don't run many X apps, the
few others ...
| Aug 6, 2:24 pm 2010 |
| Theo de Raadt | Re: weird video(4)/uvideo(4) behaviour on suspend/resume
The intent is for all USB devices to detach. They get powered off,
and we cannot maintain their state. They come back up, and we
Sounds like a problem with your machine.
| Aug 6, 1:44 pm 2010 |
| Benjamin Nadland | weird video(4)/uvideo(4) behaviour on suspend/resume
Hi,
I got an issue with video(4)/uvideo(4). If,
during bootup or at any point in time after
that, I move the lid of my notebook I get
the following messages:
video0 detached
uvideo0 detached
and the webcam stops working.
This is for quite some time now and I thought of
it as an hardware issue and my fault as it came
after I opened the machine to exchange my wireless
card.
But, after I played a bit with suspend and resume,
I encountered this on resume:
uvideo0 at uhub0
port ...
| Aug 6, 12:57 pm 2010 |
| Ahlsen-Girard, Edwar ... | Re: How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
Subject: From: Nick Holland <nick () holland-consulting ! net>
IIRC, 2GB was not sufficient when I tried to build Java on i386.
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| Aug 6, 10:18 am 2010 |
| Joachim Schipper | Re: How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
2GB is not necessarily enough for monster ports like OpenOffice, but
/usr/obj is for building the system...
Joachim
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| Aug 6, 12:35 pm 2010 |
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| Aug 6, 11:26 am 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | qmail and the maildir-uniq.patch
Does anyone know if the following patch is a good idea for OpenBSD or
simply never needed no matter how many mails you process.
http://vorlon.cwru.edu/~tmb2/qmail-1.03/qmail-1.03-maildir-uniq.patch
which does the following
Some operating systems quickly recycle PIDs, which can lead
to collisions between Maildir-style filenames, which must
be unique and non-repeatable within one second.
This patch is just a means of updating qmail-local to use
the format of the revised Maildir ...
| Aug 6, 11:06 am 2010 |
| Matthew Dempsky | Re: qmail and the maildir-uniq.patch
I would not use that patch. There are some sloppy mistakes (e.g., not
correctly mangling hostnames to spec), so it makes me nervous whether
or not the author made sure the fntmptph and fnnewtph buffers are
large enough for his new string formats.
They're certainly not if an attacker controlled what gethostname(3)
returns, but that's a bit of a stretch...
| Aug 6, 11:45 am 2010 |
| Beavis | Niagra NIC Cards
Greetings Folks,
I wanted to ask if anyone on the list has tried using one of the
Niagra NIC Cards on OpenBSD? any success/failure to it?
http://www.interfacemasters.com/products/network_interface_card_with_bypass.h
tml
any help/comment would be awesomely appreciated.
manythanks,
-B
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| Aug 6, 10:14 am 2010 |
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| Aug 6, 8:44 am 2010 |
| Aaron Lewis | How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
Hi,
How much space should i put for a separated partition , mounted on
/usr/obj , is 4 GiB more or less ?
Thanks
| Aug 6, 3:38 pm 2010 |
| Nick Holland | Re: How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
4GB is significantly bigger than any platform I've seen needs.
2GB is sufficient for just about everything now (that's from memory, not
actually looking in the last week or two). However, odds are, you have
4GB to spare, so go ahead, use it.
Nick;.
| Aug 6, 8:49 am 2010 |
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| Aug 6, 6:43 am 2010 |
| Stuart Henderson | Re: NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
"match" isn't an operation by itself. it sets options which "stick" to
packets and are applied by the _next pass rule that matches that packet_.
if there is no following pass rule to match that packet, nothing happens.
| Aug 6, 3:18 pm 2010 |
| Andres Genovez | Re: NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
I have the same problem, the glorious Packet data networks, "route"
all the private networks trought them.
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| Aug 6, 3:31 pm 2010 |
| Andre Keller | Re: NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
Hi Stuart
now I feel really stupid...
Thank you! Problem solved...
Regards andre
| Aug 6, 3:38 pm 2010 |
| Andre Keller | NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
Dear list members
I've got a small problem with my obenbsd based vpn gateway.
There are 2 physical interfaces (vr0 <- wan, vr1 <- lan) and the openvpn
tunnel interface (tun0)
VPN clients have an ip address assigned out of the range 10.176.3.0/24,
LAN clients out of the range 10.176.0.0/23.
Now I'd like to NAT the VPN clients to the LAN address of the gateway
(10.176.0.1) (There are clients in the network whitout a default gateway
and I do not want to add the 10.176.3.0/24 route to ...
| Aug 6, 5:15 am 2010 |
| Paul de Weerd | Re: wssh et al exit codes in ksh.kshrc
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:48:03PM +0200, md+openbsd_misc@mailq.de wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I like getting the correct exitcodes from my call to ssh when running
| through wssh.
|
| If found useful could be applied to the other w...'s too.
Was already applied to the other w...'s by otto@ in April. See [1].
Upgrade to -current now or wait for 4.8.
Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
[1]: ...
| Aug 6, 3:58 am 2010 |
| David Coppa | Re: wssh et al exit codes in ksh.kshrc
Already fixed in -current (since Mon Apr 26 09:04:15 2010 UTC)
Cheers,
David
| Aug 6, 3:55 am 2010 |
| md+openbsd_misc | wssh et al exit codes in ksh.kshrc
Hi,
I like getting the correct exitcodes from my call to ssh when running
through wssh.
If found useful could be applied to the other w...'s too.
-Mischa
Index: ksh.kshrc
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/src/etc/ksh.kshrc,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 ksh.kshrc
--- ksh.kshrc 7 Aug 2009 09:05:24 -0000 1.14
+++ ksh.kshrc 6 Aug 2010 10:44:27 -0000
@@ -103,8 +103,10 @@
wssh ()
{
"ssh" "$@"
+ typeset r=$?
...
| Aug 6, 3:48 am 2010 |
| Z Wing | Re: CARP + PF
Oh I see, so carp_up would be when its acting as master and carp_down for when
its acting as a backup?
Stu
--- On Thu, 5/8/10, Claer <claer@claer.hammock.fr> wrote:
From: Claer <claer@claer.hammock.fr>
Subject: Re: CARP + PF
To: misc@openbsd.org
Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 16:59
On Thu, Aug 05 2010 at 50:12, Z Wing wrote:
I wouldn't use carp for the Internet connections but for the LAN interfaces.
For establishing Internet connections, one can use ifstated using the
CARP state of ...
| Aug 6, 1:57 am 2010 |
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| Aug 5, 11:31 pm 2010 |
| VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO | Re: UTF-8
I know lots of flamewars, Emacs vs vi, GPL vs BSD, Pine vs Mutt, etc.
But ASCII vs Unicode is new to me.
| Aug 5, 8:11 pm 2010 |
| patrick keshishian | Re: UTF-8
you are forgetting tab vs space.
oh yeah, and vim is a crutch.
--patrick
| Aug 5, 10:47 pm 2010 |
| Marco Peereboom | Re: UTF-8
Easy!
vim
BSD
mutt
7 bit
no controversy at all because everyone else is wrong and they know it.
| Aug 5, 8:15 pm 2010 |
| J Sisson | Re: UTF-8
That looks like a good combo, yep.
| Aug 5, 8:47 pm 2010 |
| Stuart Henderson | Aug 6, 3:23 pm 2010 | |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: installing symux, can't load libraries
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:30:18 -0600
I think you need libfontconfig.so.*, libfontconfig.a libfontconfig.la,
libfreetype_pic.a, libfreetype_pic.a, libfreetype.so.* copying out of
xbase47.tgz to the local system.
I may have missed something, let me know and I'll check further, but
you were certainly on the right lines.
Be warned rrd (i think it's that part) requires shell and you may have
to do some jigory pokery to keep yourself happy with the
security/chroot setup.
| Aug 6, 1:54 am 2010 |
| David Hardy | Re: installing symux, can't load libraries
Something is really screwy here...libfontconfig.so.* and libfreetype.* are
already there - and even copying them to /usr/lib doesn't help. ldconfig -m
doesn't help. ldconfig -r even lists it:
40:-lfontconfig.6.0 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.6.0
and ldconfig -R /usr/X11R6/lib adds all the libs in that directory just
fine.
but still:
/usr/local/libexec/symux: can't load library 'libfontconfig.so.6.0'
I wonder if it can't load not because it can't find it, but for some other
reason ...
| Aug 6, 8:00 am 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: installing symux, can't load libraries
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 09:00:11 -0600
I'm trying to remember and/or look into what I did a while back, when I
first responded I didn't realise you had since installed xbase, sorry.
Try running it with /bin/systrace -A in front and see if the created
policy gives an insight. Maybe it wants libs in another place like the
chroot or something. I'll look more closely at my setup and scripts if
that doesn't throw any light on it.
| Aug 6, 8:42 am 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
You need to stop and start when using chroot, graceful won't work
without -u, which you probably don't want to use.
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:00:29 +0530
| Aug 5, 5:48 pm 2010 |
| Siju George | Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
Result of first apachectl graceful is running apache stops.
Do another apachectl graceful the stopped apache starts with the
config changes :-)
hope you got it clear?
thanks
--Siju
| Aug 6, 3:48 am 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
I sent two mails, one right after the other and one got through
straight away and the other took ages.
I'd understand it the other way around (spamd) which is what I always
thought was the cause (low whitelist timeout).
One got received by shear.ucar.edu an hour later than another via a
different yahoo ip. Is just an overloaded server likely the cause? or
might it have taken an hour to be processed by shear.ucar.edu?
I'm guessing it's yahoo because I've seen other replies get in ...
| Aug 5, 7:57 pm 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
Sorry, just noticed the subject and looked closer, are you sure it does
restart. Cos that second logs looks like a start after a stop.
I guess the first restart failed but it did stop and the second restart
failed but it did start. I remember some discussion about changing the
script so maybe that's why or maybe it has always done that?. I'll
compare them later, but I'm sure someone will know why.
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:00:29 +0530
| Aug 5, 5:53 pm 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: addon to website faq
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:14:09 -0400
Kernel Virtual Machine maybe a more reliable/leaner option but even that
did/does? have a problem since 4.6 requiring mpbios be disabled with
boot -c.
| Aug 6, 10:19 am 2010 |
| Joachim Schipper | Re: addon to website faq
You don't want to rely on KVM - that'd mean that people need to get
their Linux machine updated and setup before they can install OpenBSD.
*Most* people who want to run OpenBSD on a server will have a local
install lying around...
Joachim
| Aug 6, 12:38 pm 2010 |
| Nick Holland | Re: addon to website faq
I'm hesitant to provide detailed guidance in the use of Linux-based
solutions, as verifying they still work release after release (of
OpenBSD and all the various linux distributions and all the hosting
options) just won't happen by me, and I'll never hear from you again
after it is committed.
I'm also a bit dubious about anything which involves qemu as a solution,
as I've seen too many people immediately jump on using qemu when much
easier and simpler ways of doing the same thing exist (i.e., ...
| Aug 6, 9:14 am 2010 |
| Aaron Lewis | [solve] Re: becoming a openbsd developer , any guides ?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
Hi,
I'm using lower case of `solved' just because i'm with some basic ideas
for the moment.
Thanks for all or your suggestions.
@Dunceor: So , i will start from src/sys , it's interesting for me.
@Philip: I came from LINUX world , these VCS tools comes up a bit
different , but i'd get used to it.
@Richard: undeadly and bsdtalk is a good start then.
- --
Best Regards,
Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0x4A6D32A0
FingerPrint EA63 26B2 6C52 72EA ...
| Aug 5, 5:58 pm 2010 |
| Mikolaj Kucharski | Re: dhcp and bridge problem
No, sorry, false alarm. It stopped to work again. After rebooting one of
the virtual machines none of the machines on the bridge (when using
Ethernet broadcast) is able to get the lease again. You can get lease
only when you plug the calbe where the dhcpd(8) is running (on sis0).
Fedora, the vm host, is bridging VMs with physical network card.
openbsd [ bridge0 ( sis0 sis1 sis2 sis3 ) ] --- cable from sis3 to switch --|
fedora [ virbr0 ( eth0 vnet0 ) ] -------- ecable from eth0 to switch ...
| Aug 5, 5:34 pm 2010 |
| Mikolaj Kucharski | Re: dhcp and bridge problem
I did some more research. I don't think I find something useful. I'm
attaching pcap files from each interface when Ethernet broadcast is
working and the it stop to work. You can see arp who has messages, they
also stop to work around 14:18:24.
I think the whole problem is because of 00:e0:4c:4c:40:91 machine which
sends arp who-has every two seconds, if I unplug this machine from
switch everything is working fine (I'm not able to break the bridge).
If someone is interested in more details ...
| Aug 6, 8:11 am 2010 |
| Stuart Henderson | Re: No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN ...
It's not for nothing that we ask for the dmesg.
http://www.openbsd.org/report.html
Save pastebin for chat, inline is better in emails..
| Aug 6, 3:28 pm 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: Disk RPM
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:51:53 +0200
I think that's the right decision but if I'm right then changing it to
the right value won't matter either as long as you don't damage the
disklabel with a typo.
I think this would have been asked before, the mailing list archive like
on the marc.info site will probably give you a completely sure answer.
| Aug 5, 9:45 pm 2010 |
| Sviatoslav Chagaev | Re: xxkb in 4.8-BETA
A week or so ago, I upgraded to a snapshot and had this same problem,
in X log, it would write
...
[266813.036] (**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[266813.037] (**) Option "CoreKeyboard"
[266813.037] (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events
[266813.037] (**) Option "Protocol" "standard"
[266813.037] (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard
*** [266813.037] (--) Keyboard0: using wscons layout us ***
[266813.037] (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
[266813.037] (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: ...
| Aug 6, 11:40 am 2010 |
| Ted Unangst | Re: Question about suspend+resume & X11-application buggy-ness
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert
echo pkill -SIGOMG poniesd >> /etc/apm/suspend
| Aug 6, 2:14 pm 2010 |
| Christiano F. Haesbaert | Re: Question about suspend+resume & X11-application buggy-ness
Sweet, disregard my previous post.
| Aug 6, 2:17 pm 2010 |
| Christiano F. Haesbaert | Re: Question about suspend+resume & X11-application buggy-ness
What kind of approach would an API take, another socket type, like AF_ROUTE ?
What about a new signal, if the default was to ignore, it wouldn't
break signal semantics, although I agree that having a new signal may
be too aggressive.
I could benefit from such API, in mdns, if you know that you're about
to lose connectivity you should issue a cache flush on your records,
therefore it would be nice to receive an event such "about to
suspend".
I got my hands full right now but it seems like ...
| Aug 6, 2:01 pm 2010 |
| Dmitrij D. Czarkoff | Re: UTF-8
By default all output is in ASCII range, You can configure Your keyboard to
input only ASCII range symbols. Your problem isn't one of Unicode, it's just
one of charecter ranges, and right now it doesn't happen to exist in a real
world OpenBSD.
--
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
| Aug 5, 10:28 pm 2010 |
| Marc Espie | Re: UTF-8
So what ? human languages are complicated. It's great that finally, some
large proportion of humanity is not ignored.
Your view is so narrow-minded, this is mind-boggling.
Do you realize that almost 1 billion people live in India ? and more than
that in China ? Do you think there is proper support for the languages of
those people outside of unicode ? (hint: even there, it's tough. If you
have time, check the logs of qt, see all the fixes about accents and other
diacritics marks in ...
| Aug 6, 4:31 am 2010 |
| Philip Guenther | Re: UTF-8
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Matthew Szudzik
You're saying that a side-comment in the original Turing machine
thought experiment is an argument against character sets with similar
characters?
Philip Guenther
| Aug 5, 7:40 pm 2010 |
| Marco Peereboom | Re: UTF-8
7 bits ought to be enough for everyone!
| Aug 5, 8:06 pm 2010 |
| Kevin Chadwick | Re: UTF-8
I'd hope everyone is interested in better i18n support but I certainly
don't envy your task. The best luck to anyone involved
| Aug 6, 6:52 am 2010 |
| STeve Andre' | Re: UTF-8
Thank you Marc. I started to write something twice but I devolved into
much less useful language, talking about this. I'm going to keep this
handy, for future such conversations, see if I can expand it a bit.
I begin to think that this is uniquely an American thing, not understanding
about the rest of the world and computer usage. Despite the added
complexity it's a wonderful thing, making computers mold to people
rather than the other way.
--
STeve Andre'
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