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Opus Développement
Mas en pierres - "Provence"
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Aug 6, 6:36 am 2010
patrick keshishian
Glitches with (some?) X apps
Hi, With macppc snapshot install from Aug 3rd I was able to, once again, run firefox (v 3.6.8). But there are some drawing glitches in the UI. The Gimp port finally finished building and it too is demonstrating similar artifacts. They resemble the color shifts one would see when using apps that install their own colormap, but not quite. I'm not certain if this is an X issue or if the problem is at a higher level in the app or the toolkit (gtk+2). I don't run many X apps, the few others ...
Aug 6, 2:24 pm 2010
Theo de Raadt
Re: weird video(4)/uvideo(4) behaviour on suspend/resume
The intent is for all USB devices to detach. They get powered off, and we cannot maintain their state. They come back up, and we Sounds like a problem with your machine.
Aug 6, 1:44 pm 2010
Benjamin Nadland
weird video(4)/uvideo(4) behaviour on suspend/resume
Hi, I got an issue with video(4)/uvideo(4). If, during bootup or at any point in time after that, I move the lid of my notebook I get the following messages: video0 detached uvideo0 detached and the webcam stops working. This is for quite some time now and I thought of it as an hardware issue and my fault as it came after I opened the machine to exchange my wireless card. But, after I played a bit with suspend and resume, I encountered this on resume: uvideo0 at uhub0 port ...
Aug 6, 12:57 pm 2010
Ahlsen-Girard, Edwar ...
Re: How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
Subject: From: Nick Holland <nick () holland-consulting ! net> IIRC, 2GB was not sufficient when I tried to build Java on i386. -- Ed Ahlsen-Girard, Contractor (EITC) AFSOC/A6OK email: "edward.ahlsen-girard.ctr@hurlburt.af.mil" 850-884-2414 DSN: 579-2414
Aug 6, 10:18 am 2010
Joachim Schipper
Re: How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
2GB is not necessarily enough for monster ports like OpenOffice, but /usr/obj is for building the system... Joachim -- TFMotD: yacc (1) - an LALR(1) parser generator
Aug 6, 12:35 pm 2010
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Aug 6, 11:26 am 2010
Kevin Chadwick
qmail and the maildir-uniq.patch
Does anyone know if the following patch is a good idea for OpenBSD or simply never needed no matter how many mails you process. http://vorlon.cwru.edu/~tmb2/qmail-1.03/qmail-1.03-maildir-uniq.patch which does the following Some operating systems quickly recycle PIDs, which can lead to collisions between Maildir-style filenames, which must be unique and non-repeatable within one second. This patch is just a means of updating qmail-local to use the format of the revised Maildir ...
Aug 6, 11:06 am 2010
Matthew Dempsky
Re: qmail and the maildir-uniq.patch
I would not use that patch. There are some sloppy mistakes (e.g., not correctly mangling hostnames to spec), so it makes me nervous whether or not the author made sure the fntmptph and fnnewtph buffers are large enough for his new string formats. They're certainly not if an attacker controlled what gethostname(3) returns, but that's a bit of a stretch...
Aug 6, 11:45 am 2010
Beavis
Niagra NIC Cards
Greetings Folks, I wanted to ask if anyone on the list has tried using one of the Niagra NIC Cards on OpenBSD? any success/failure to it? http://www.interfacemasters.com/products/network_interface_card_with_bypass.h tml any help/comment would be awesomely appreciated. manythanks, -B -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
Aug 6, 10:14 am 2010
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Aug 6, 8:44 am 2010
Aaron Lewis
How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
Hi, How much space should i put for a separated partition , mounted on /usr/obj , is 4 GiB more or less ? Thanks
Aug 6, 3:38 pm 2010
Nick Holland
Re: How much disk space should be maintained for /usr/obj
4GB is significantly bigger than any platform I've seen needs. 2GB is sufficient for just about everything now (that's from memory, not actually looking in the last week or two). However, odds are, you have 4GB to spare, so go ahead, use it. Nick;.
Aug 6, 8:49 am 2010
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Aug 6, 6:43 am 2010
Stuart Henderson
Re: NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
"match" isn't an operation by itself. it sets options which "stick" to packets and are applied by the _next pass rule that matches that packet_. if there is no following pass rule to match that packet, nothing happens.
Aug 6, 3:18 pm 2010
Andres Genovez
Re: NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
I have the same problem, the glorious Packet data networks, "route" all the private networks trought them. -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Sistemas Elastix ECE - Linux LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT http://www.cspmsa.com agenovez@cspmsa.com Jabber: bitfrost@asgard.crice.org Comunidad: http://www.crice.org
Aug 6, 3:31 pm 2010
Andre Keller
Re: NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
Hi Stuart now I feel really stupid... Thank you! Problem solved... Regards andre
Aug 6, 3:38 pm 2010
Andre Keller
NAT OpenVPN clients on internal network
Dear list members I've got a small problem with my obenbsd based vpn gateway. There are 2 physical interfaces (vr0 <- wan, vr1 <- lan) and the openvpn tunnel interface (tun0) VPN clients have an ip address assigned out of the range 10.176.3.0/24, LAN clients out of the range 10.176.0.0/23. Now I'd like to NAT the VPN clients to the LAN address of the gateway (10.176.0.1) (There are clients in the network whitout a default gateway and I do not want to add the 10.176.3.0/24 route to ...
Aug 6, 5:15 am 2010
Paul de Weerd
Re: wssh et al exit codes in ksh.kshrc
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:48:03PM +0200, md+openbsd_misc@mailq.de wrote: | Hi, | | I like getting the correct exitcodes from my call to ssh when running | through wssh. | | If found useful could be applied to the other w...'s too. Was already applied to the other w...'s by otto@ in April. See [1]. Upgrade to -current now or wait for 4.8. Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd [1]: ...
Aug 6, 3:58 am 2010
David Coppa
Re: wssh et al exit codes in ksh.kshrc
Already fixed in -current (since Mon Apr 26 09:04:15 2010 UTC) Cheers, David
Aug 6, 3:55 am 2010
md+openbsd_misc
wssh et al exit codes in ksh.kshrc
Hi, I like getting the correct exitcodes from my call to ssh when running through wssh. If found useful could be applied to the other w...'s too. -Mischa Index: ksh.kshrc =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/src/etc/ksh.kshrc,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -u -r1.14 ksh.kshrc --- ksh.kshrc 7 Aug 2009 09:05:24 -0000 1.14 +++ ksh.kshrc 6 Aug 2010 10:44:27 -0000 @@ -103,8 +103,10 @@ wssh () { "ssh" "$@" + typeset r=$? ...
Aug 6, 3:48 am 2010
Z Wing
Re: CARP + PF
Oh I see, so carp_up would be when its acting as master and carp_down for when its acting as a backup? Stu --- On Thu, 5/8/10, Claer <claer@claer.hammock.fr> wrote: From: Claer <claer@claer.hammock.fr> Subject: Re: CARP + PF To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 16:59 On Thu, Aug 05 2010 at 50:12, Z Wing wrote: I wouldn't use carp for the Internet connections but for the LAN interfaces. For establishing Internet connections, one can use ifstated using the CARP state of ...
Aug 6, 1:57 am 2010
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Aug 5, 11:31 pm 2010
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
Re: UTF-8
I know lots of flamewars, Emacs vs vi, GPL vs BSD, Pine vs Mutt, etc. But ASCII vs Unicode is new to me.
Aug 5, 8:11 pm 2010
patrick keshishian
Re: UTF-8
you are forgetting tab vs space. oh yeah, and vim is a crutch. --patrick
Aug 5, 10:47 pm 2010
Marco Peereboom
Re: UTF-8
Easy! vim BSD mutt 7 bit no controversy at all because everyone else is wrong and they know it.
Aug 5, 8:15 pm 2010
J Sisson
Re: UTF-8
That looks like a good combo, yep.
Aug 5, 8:47 pm 2010
Stuart Henderson Aug 6, 3:23 pm 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: installing symux, can't load libraries
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 15:30:18 -0600 I think you need libfontconfig.so.*, libfontconfig.a libfontconfig.la, libfreetype_pic.a, libfreetype_pic.a, libfreetype.so.* copying out of xbase47.tgz to the local system. I may have missed something, let me know and I'll check further, but you were certainly on the right lines. Be warned rrd (i think it's that part) requires shell and you may have to do some jigory pokery to keep yourself happy with the security/chroot setup.
Aug 6, 1:54 am 2010
David Hardy
Re: installing symux, can't load libraries
Something is really screwy here...libfontconfig.so.* and libfreetype.* are already there - and even copying them to /usr/lib doesn't help. ldconfig -m doesn't help. ldconfig -r even lists it: 40:-lfontconfig.6.0 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.6.0 and ldconfig -R /usr/X11R6/lib adds all the libs in that directory just fine. but still: /usr/local/libexec/symux: can't load library 'libfontconfig.so.6.0' I wonder if it can't load not because it can't find it, but for some other reason ...
Aug 6, 8:00 am 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: installing symux, can't load libraries
On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 09:00:11 -0600 I'm trying to remember and/or look into what I did a while back, when I first responded I didn't realise you had since installed xbase, sorry. Try running it with /bin/systrace -A in front and see if the created policy gives an insight. Maybe it wants libs in another place like the chroot or something. I'll look more closely at my setup and scripts if that doesn't throw any light on it.
Aug 6, 8:42 am 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
You need to stop and start when using chroot, graceful won't work without -u, which you probably don't want to use. On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:00:29 +0530
Aug 5, 5:48 pm 2010
Siju George
Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
Result of first apachectl graceful is running apache stops. Do another apachectl graceful the stopped apache starts with the config changes :-) hope you got it clear? thanks --Siju
Aug 6, 3:48 am 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
I sent two mails, one right after the other and one got through straight away and the other took ages. I'd understand it the other way around (spamd) which is what I always thought was the cause (low whitelist timeout). One got received by shear.ucar.edu an hour later than another via a different yahoo ip. Is just an overloaded server likely the cause? or might it have taken an hour to be processed by shear.ucar.edu? I'm guessing it's yahoo because I've seen other replies get in ...
Aug 5, 7:57 pm 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4 ...
Sorry, just noticed the subject and looked closer, are you sure it does restart. Cos that second logs looks like a start after a stop. I guess the first restart failed but it did stop and the second restart failed but it did start. I remember some discussion about changing the script so maybe that's why or maybe it has always done that?. I'll compare them later, but I'm sure someone will know why. On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:00:29 +0530
Aug 5, 5:53 pm 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: addon to website faq
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:14:09 -0400 Kernel Virtual Machine maybe a more reliable/leaner option but even that did/does? have a problem since 4.6 requiring mpbios be disabled with boot -c.
Aug 6, 10:19 am 2010
Joachim Schipper
Re: addon to website faq
You don't want to rely on KVM - that'd mean that people need to get their Linux machine updated and setup before they can install OpenBSD. *Most* people who want to run OpenBSD on a server will have a local install lying around... Joachim
Aug 6, 12:38 pm 2010
Nick Holland
Re: addon to website faq
I'm hesitant to provide detailed guidance in the use of Linux-based solutions, as verifying they still work release after release (of OpenBSD and all the various linux distributions and all the hosting options) just won't happen by me, and I'll never hear from you again after it is committed. I'm also a bit dubious about anything which involves qemu as a solution, as I've seen too many people immediately jump on using qemu when much easier and simpler ways of doing the same thing exist (i.e., ...
Aug 6, 9:14 am 2010
Aaron Lewis
[solve] Re: becoming a openbsd developer , any guides ?
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm using lower case of `solved' just because i'm with some basic ideas for the moment. Thanks for all or your suggestions. @Dunceor: So , i will start from src/sys , it's interesting for me. @Philip: I came from LINUX world , these VCS tools comes up a bit different , but i'd get used to it. @Richard: undeadly and bsdtalk is a good start then. - -- Best Regards, Aaron Lewis - PGP: 0x4A6D32A0 FingerPrint EA63 26B2 6C52 72EA ...
Aug 5, 5:58 pm 2010
Mikolaj Kucharski
Re: dhcp and bridge problem
No, sorry, false alarm. It stopped to work again. After rebooting one of the virtual machines none of the machines on the bridge (when using Ethernet broadcast) is able to get the lease again. You can get lease only when you plug the calbe where the dhcpd(8) is running (on sis0). Fedora, the vm host, is bridging VMs with physical network card. openbsd [ bridge0 ( sis0 sis1 sis2 sis3 ) ] --- cable from sis3 to switch --| fedora [ virbr0 ( eth0 vnet0 ) ] -------- ecable from eth0 to switch ...
Aug 5, 5:34 pm 2010
Mikolaj Kucharski
Re: dhcp and bridge problem
I did some more research. I don't think I find something useful. I'm attaching pcap files from each interface when Ethernet broadcast is working and the it stop to work. You can see arp who has messages, they also stop to work around 14:18:24. I think the whole problem is because of 00:e0:4c:4c:40:91 machine which sends arp who-has every two seconds, if I unplug this machine from switch everything is working fine (I'm not able to break the bridge). If someone is interested in more details ...
Aug 6, 8:11 am 2010
Stuart Henderson
Re: No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN ...
It's not for nothing that we ask for the dmesg. http://www.openbsd.org/report.html Save pastebin for chat, inline is better in emails..
Aug 6, 3:28 pm 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: Disk RPM
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:51:53 +0200 I think that's the right decision but if I'm right then changing it to the right value won't matter either as long as you don't damage the disklabel with a typo. I think this would have been asked before, the mailing list archive like on the marc.info site will probably give you a completely sure answer.
Aug 5, 9:45 pm 2010
Sviatoslav Chagaev
Re: xxkb in 4.8-BETA
A week or so ago, I upgraded to a snapshot and had this same problem, in X log, it would write ... [266813.036] (**) Mouse0: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 [266813.037] (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" [266813.037] (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events [266813.037] (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" [266813.037] (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard *** [266813.037] (--) Keyboard0: using wscons layout us *** [266813.037] (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" [266813.037] (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: ...
Aug 6, 11:40 am 2010
Ted Unangst
Re: Question about suspend+resume & X11-application buggy-ness
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert echo pkill -SIGOMG poniesd >> /etc/apm/suspend
Aug 6, 2:14 pm 2010
Christiano F. Haesbaert Aug 6, 2:17 pm 2010
Christiano F. Haesbaert
Re: Question about suspend+resume & X11-application buggy-ness
What kind of approach would an API take, another socket type, like AF_ROUTE ? What about a new signal, if the default was to ignore, it wouldn't break signal semantics, although I agree that having a new signal may be too aggressive. I could benefit from such API, in mdns, if you know that you're about to lose connectivity you should issue a cache flush on your records, therefore it would be nice to receive an event such "about to suspend". I got my hands full right now but it seems like ...
Aug 6, 2:01 pm 2010
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Re: UTF-8
By default all output is in ASCII range, You can configure Your keyboard to input only ASCII range symbols. Your problem isn't one of Unicode, it's just one of charecter ranges, and right now it doesn't happen to exist in a real world OpenBSD. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Aug 5, 10:28 pm 2010
Marc Espie
Re: UTF-8
So what ? human languages are complicated. It's great that finally, some large proportion of humanity is not ignored. Your view is so narrow-minded, this is mind-boggling. Do you realize that almost 1 billion people live in India ? and more than that in China ? Do you think there is proper support for the languages of those people outside of unicode ? (hint: even there, it's tough. If you have time, check the logs of qt, see all the fixes about accents and other diacritics marks in ...
Aug 6, 4:31 am 2010
Philip Guenther
Re: UTF-8
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Matthew Szudzik You're saying that a side-comment in the original Turing machine thought experiment is an argument against character sets with similar characters? Philip Guenther
Aug 5, 7:40 pm 2010
Marco Peereboom
Re: UTF-8
7 bits ought to be enough for everyone!
Aug 5, 8:06 pm 2010
Kevin Chadwick
Re: UTF-8
I'd hope everyone is interested in better i18n support but I certainly don't envy your task. The best luck to anyone involved
Aug 6, 6:52 am 2010
STeve Andre'
Re: UTF-8
Thank you Marc. I started to write something twice but I devolved into much less useful language, talking about this. I'm going to keep this handy, for future such conversations, see if I can expand it a bit. I begin to think that this is uniquely an American thing, not understanding about the rest of the world and computer usage. Despite the added complexity it's a wonderful thing, making computers mold to people rather than the other way. -- STeve Andre' Disease Control ...
Aug 6, 6:18 am 2010
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