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From: Tomas Bodzar
Subject: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 12:30 am

Hi all,

did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply "shut down" X. If
I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

So someone here with similar behaviour?


OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug  9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
    deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11<memory_size>
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz ("GenuineIntel"
686-class) 2.93 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
real mem  = 3487125504 (3325MB)
avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version "A03" date 02/13/2010
bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT SSDT
SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz ("GenuineIntel"
686-class) 2.93 ...
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From: LEVAI Daniel
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 1:19 am

Wish I hadn't tried it :) Yes, it happens here too.


Yep!


Daniel

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From: LEVAI Daniel
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 1:39 am

I'm sorry, here's my dmesg (and I'm using scrotwm-0.9.25 from packages):


OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #358: Wed Aug 11 10:18:19 MDT 2010
    deraadt@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.83 GHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM
real mem  = 2145808384 (2046MB)
avail mem = 2100715520 (2003MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/27/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd6b0, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (68 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version "79ETE5WW (2.25 )" date 08/27/2009
bios0: LENOVO 2007FRG
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET BOOT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) LURT(S3) DURT(S3) EXP0(S4) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB7(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee00000: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.83 GHz
cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec00000, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 2, remapped to apid 1
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 12 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical ...
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From: Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 7:12 am

not sure if it is the same bug but i have seen ephemeral windows e.g. 
the little "Sending mail..." windows from seamonkey's mail client cause 
scrotwm to crash. there is a patch to stop the crashing behavior in the 
current cvs version. checkout cvs and see if your problem persists:

cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.freedaemon.com:/scrotwm co scrotwm
cd scrotwm
make obj && make depend && make && sudo make -DDEBUG install
- issue M-q to soft restart scrotwm using the freshly installed binary
- issue M-S-v to verify you are running the cvs version, should be 1.300

when i had scrotwm crashing, it would drop .core files and you can do a 
decent backtrace with gdb when you have the symbols in there. run 'gdb 
/usr/local/bin/scrotwm scrotwm.core' and issue 'bt full'. this output is 
helpful for finding the bug(s) you're hitting.


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From: Jiri B.
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 1:24 am

scrotwm works OK for me with latest snapshot on Lenovo T400 (i386). But it

is incredebily slow comparable with same setup on Ubuntu :(



jirib


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From: Marco Peereboom
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 4:40 am

dmesg?



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From: Jiri B.
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 1:20 pm

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:40:21 -0500

I have to first eliminate potential involvement of i/o slowdown because

Anyway, this always makes my scrotwm to be f*cked up:

`mplayer -fs -vo sdl video'

jirib


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From: Owain Ainsworth
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 10:58 am

Why are you using sdl for video playing in the first place?

Almost always the default XVideo one is the one you want.

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From: Tomas Bodzar
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 10:23 pm

dmesg is in my first post, but here is error output from startx from
start to crash after startup of xeyes (there is not core file)  :


xauth:  creating new authority file /home/user/.serverauth.5483


X.Org X Server 1.8.2
Release Date: 2010-07-01
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: OpenBSD 4.8 i386
Current Operating System: OpenBSD hostname 4.8 GENERIC.MP#359 i386
Build Date: 08 August 2010  11:09:28PM

Current version of pixman: 0.16.6
        Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
        to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
        (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Aug 18 07:12:17 2010
(==) Using default built-in configuration (21 lines)
  XRANDR name: DisplayPort-1
  Connector: DisplayPort
  DFP1: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
  DDC reg: 0x7e60
  XRANDR name: DisplayPort-0
  Connector: DisplayPort
  DFP2: INTERNAL_UNIPHY
  DDC reg: 0x7e20
finished output detect: 0
finished output detect: 1
finished all detect
before xf86InitialConfiguration
after xf86InitialConfiguration
Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Blank CRTC 0 success
Disable CRTC 0 success
Disable CRTC memreq 0 success
Blank CRTC 1 success
Disable CRTC 1 success
Disable CRTC memreq 1 success
mc fb loc is 00df00d0
Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Blank CRTC 0 success
Disable CRTC 0 success
Disable CRTC memreq 0 success
Blank CRTC 1 success
Disable CRTC 1 success
Disable CRTC memreq 1 success
Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Mode 1680x1050 - 1840 1080 9
freq: 119000000
best_freq: 119000000
best_feedback_div: 119
best_ref_div: 3
best_post_div: 9
Set CRTC 0 PLL success
Set CRTC Timing success
Set CRTC 0 Overscan success
Not using RMX
scaler 0 setup success
Set CRTC 0 Source success
crtc 0 YUV disable ...
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From: Marco Peereboom
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 4:39 am

I bet that is the controlled shut down where applications create windows
and then destroy them before scrotwm can focus on them.  I fixed this in
cvs and would appreciate a test report.  CVS instructions are on the www
scrotwm page and it conveniently installs over the pkg.



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From: Tomas Bodzar
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 4:49 am

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From: Tomas Bodzar
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 1:32 am

I checked out sources from cvs and then make ; sudo make install, but
it's still same version as in packages/ports (0.9.25). Same version


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From: Marco Peereboom
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 4:53 am

no it isn't.  the external version isn't the same as the cvs version.
obviously we don't change the external version after every commit.

use m-s-v for the real version.



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From: Tomas Bodzar
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 5:13 am

Welcome to scrotwm V0.9.25 cvs tag: $scrotwm: scrotwm.c,v 1.300
2010/08/11 03:15:40 marco Exp $



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From: Ted Unangst
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 7:56 am

For the record, it would be nice to test with a different window
manager.  Bugs in scrotwm do not count as bugs in OpenBSD.


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From: Owain Ainsworth
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 11:03 am

M-?xeyes<enter>

in  cwm (on current, amd64) runs fine.

So i bet a scrotwm bug.


Then again the mail contains at least 3 bugs being mentioned, this only
treats the first.

As for the third (warzone) the monitor timing is probably a warzone or X
bug, the rest of the failure could be the WM or the application just not
quitting and keeping the keyboard grabbed (that would be an application
bug). That can be tested using ssh and kill -9.

As a note, scotwm really needs it own mailing list, scrotwm bugs are not
really topical for misc.

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From: Nick Holland
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 4:07 pm

On 08/18/10 14:02, Owain Ainsworth wrote:

and a graphic!  don't forget a graphi...er..hmmm....
Maybe that wouldn't be such a good idea.

Nick.


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From: ropers
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 5:18 pm

Here you go:
http://i.imgur.com/Bns7H.png

regards,
--ropers


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From: Matthew Dempsky
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 6:03 pm

I lol'd.


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From: Ryan Flannery
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 7:33 pm

aaaand I now have coffee all over my laptop.

many thanks for that.


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From: Ingo Schwarze
Subject: Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm
Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 5:22 pm

Why?  What's wrong with a graphic for scot-wm?
I imagine something with a kilt, and a bagpipe, and some sheep.
And a tartan background for the screen, perhaps...


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