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that is the intended and correct behaviour. binat is gone. pfctl has a kludge. re-implementing binat as it was before - over my dead body. -- Henning Brauer, hb@bsws.de, henning@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting

Well, you could setup no login in the master.passwd for that user and assign the home directory to their web site folder. They will change root to that and can't get out of it via ftp.

Qmail is best-known among everyone equipped with sufficient experience as the cause of numerous operational issues and a fair amount of abuse thanks to a number of very poor design and implementation decisions. Many of these have been discussed over the year in exhaustive detail on the appropriate mailing lists and newsgroups. Anyone who isn't fully aware of this simply hasn't been paying attention. ---Rsk

Go away clown. And take your "practical" engineering degree with you. Leave us to our theory. That is meant only as a joke. All hail Marco and Theo and... the other two guys. Sincerely,

Implication is, by definition, about what you _didn't_ explicitly say. In the context of this thread, the implication seems quite clear to me -- but since it isn't what you intended, there's no reason for further discussion of it. [Lots of overreaction snipped.] Dave -- Dave Anderson <dave@daveanderson.com>

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On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:46:24 +0200 This is between Theo and his developers. It has no place here on misc@ so please just shove it. Go cry on your mothers' shoulder and tell her all about how you got your feelings hurt. It's really fucked up what you just did.

One, or more, of the developers have chosen to take a selection of the There are a series of internal discussions going on regarding testing specifically during the release cycle. If anything, the strong reactions and conversations are a testament to our drive to do things right. Everyone involved in the project has high expectations for their work as well as their fellow developers. That's particularly apparent here. Please keep in mind, this is just my assessment of what's going on. ...

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You imply that sendmail is _only_ fine for such limited uses, which is certainly not true in my experience; I'm curious as to why you believe this. It doesn't require (or, AFAICT, benefit in any way) from users having any sort of account (let alone a system account) on the mailserver itself, and it's not hard to set up multiple domains on the same server. While I haven't needed to do it myself, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence of large, busy mailservers running sendmail. I'm _not_ ...

please don't try to put words in my mouth, it makes you look stupid. at no point did i say what you claim i 'implied' i.e. that it is the *only* use case, you assume too much. sendmail is a piece of software that is historically notorious for security problems and has only been tuned up to get in the openbsd tree with input from some very sharp people. that says nothing about its ability to handle load, which it obviously can do just fine based on the how about you *read* my ...

I just realized that if I telnet to our web servers on port 80 and press enter a few times that I get a reply back from relayd that I didn't expect "<address>OpenBSD relayd at 127.0.0.1 port 8080</address>" This error is correct as we use a PF rdr rule to redirect traffic on our firewall to localhost port 8080 where we have relayd listening. I was wondering if it's possible to stop this error from being displayed as I would prefer not to disclose to the world what software we use. I've ...

I donated when Marco asked for cash to hp laptops , not much, but something... Anyway, I can live with the problem, since suspend/resume works well :)

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What are your views on qmail versus Postfix? Note that I'm *not* criticising your choice of qmail, and especially not now that it's in the public domain. I simply want to learn more about the subject. /Fredrik Henbjork

For a basic mailserver, there's no reason to not use standard Senamdaill To make it even simpler, install Webmin - the sendmail manager tool is very useful. Lee

Generically speaking -- and I'm digesting several decades of experience into a few paragraphs, so I'm going to make some sweeping statements that, of course, have exceptions. Except for the last one. If you've never done this before, then stick with sendmail because it minimizes the probability that you'll screw up. Postfix is easier to configure than sendmail. It also benefits from having been designed after many years of experience with sendmail, so it incorporates some lessons ...

Qmail has worked for me for many years. We get about 50.00 smtp connections a day and do about 200K deliveries a month.

On 8/13/2010 at 9:04 AM Christer Solskogen wrote: |On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, <openbsd@e-solutions.re> wrote: |> Hi, |> |> I want to install a mailserver. |> What is the easiest and the most secure solution ? |> OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead |> Sendmail. |> Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ? |> | |Why do you think OpenBSD ships with (a custom and secure) sendmail by |default? ============= sendmail has an ...

Hi, I want to install a mailserver. What is the easiest and the most secure solution ? OpenBSD comes with Sendmail. I seen a lot of people use Postfix instead Sendmail. Is there someone to advice me about the choice of the MTA ? Thank's.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:23:30 -0500, "jy-p@fixedpointgroup.com" Thank's for your answer.

The one that you are most familiar with will always be the most secure solution. If you think choosing a particular product will ensure security you are wrong from the start. I happen to like sendmail and use it still --- James A. Peltier james_a_peltier@yahoo.ca

++ sendmail is fine if you have a few users at a relatively quiet domain, all of whom you want to have system accounts on the mailserver. smtpd does similarly but has unpredictable behavior at best. i spent many hours fiddling with smtpd until i gave up on it. postfix is great because of the virtual user support, meaning that your mail users do not require system accounts, and configurability. hosting several domains, all with separate mailboxes e.g. user@domain1.com and ...

Just because it's in base doesn't mean that it's the "best" choice. After all, it *could* just mean that noone has had the time and/or energy to replace it with something "better" in base. I think few would argue that all things in base are perfect, and that there is no room for improvement. /Fredrik Henbjork, who hates Sendmail from a usability point of view.

Actually "q"mail is only used by people who do know better because otherwise people like yahoo wouldn't go to such lengths to install it (caused by it's old licensing). There is a lot of bullshit about qmail floating around which I assume drove you to your opinion, please tell me why it is crap perhaps privately, after all this is an OpenBSD and not a qmail mailing list and I am currently assuming that what you have to say is wrong or has a patch for it.

http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ldap/ name sounds similar. date..... --Siju

<beavis> huh, hurr, he said qmail </beavis> -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/ "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic" delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:55:13 +0400 "It depends" - as mentioned before, you need to specify the environment, mail volume etc. My opinion: *) Since 4.6 OpenBSD ships with its own daemon: "man smtpd". From what I remember it's not meant for production yet, but just for sending internal traffic (logs, notifications etc.) it works fine for me. *) Use qmail for large volume traffic, but be sure to read a bit about its "developer environment" before ;) *) If none of those two seem to be right for ...

You are right as out of the box MTA in standard operation. I should phase it differently. Like I said sendmail is still there. smtpd is in base as well, but sendmail is the one in default operation. My mistake in the details. # man smtpd | grep appeared The smtpd program first appeared in OpenBSD 4.6. But bullshit it was from me. sendmail is still the default MTA yes, but you have the choice and can use smtpd.

I have been for almost 18 months now. I use it as spam filter and front end for others. I do not have users n that box, not that it couldn't I guess. I never tried to make it so. It's risky, yes, but you don't make an omelet without breaking eggs! I ran into some issue time to time before, all in misc@ if you want to see it. But I must say in general, it's been very good for me. I upgrade it to the latest time to time when I see Gilles dong lots of commit to it. I run two of them, so ...

On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 12:27:56 +0200 qmail first grabbed my attention which it already had when I noticed a large defense organisation using it. I love qmail especially for it's use of the unix philosophy of many small parts and that it was built with security and simplicity in mind. It's not too easy to setup or keep track of vulnerabilities in patches, but spamcontrol at "www.fehcom.de" makes it easier to turn qmail into a fully functional and modern MTA, possibly even more functional and ...

I'll second that. We've used Courier-MTA for at least five years and it is very robust with rock-solid performance and a good security record. (We use sendmail too btw, in spam-filtering mail frontends.) Unfortunately Courier-MTA isn't in ports (although its cousins Courier- IMAP and Courier-POP3 are), but it is pretty straight-forward to compile from source (read up carefully on the rather lengthy but well-documented compile-and-install process ...

The closest I have to that is an X20, which I just did a full PXE booted install on, and it works fine.

What's this about? That's not a valid command at that point. Granted no error message, but "disable asdf" and "l;jk ;lkj" don't produce an error message either (which is odd...) And... I really suspect disabling ACPI is not something you want to do with this machine. You may want to disable apm to force it to use acpi I take it you are PXE booting because you don't have the lower thingie which has the floppy and CD for this machine...(if you DO have the lower thingie, could you try a cd ...

I am already writing and I don't want to hurry this thing up. It won't be ready this week. Rather in two weeks. After that I will send it to all of you who wants to help. Thank you for your patience.

I would like to see a tutorial for vim and OpenBSD, it would be useful a quick poll of my facebook friends I have 3 more that vote yes -- Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks http://www.fourmannetworks.com

Hi Stuart, thanks for the idea. Unfortunately, as I just hear, the manufacturer dropped support for these machines. My supplier also only learnt it when he asked the manufacturer for a new BIOS version. Having said that, what is the current common wisdom for reliable small CPE boxes that are reliable enough to be safely upgraded remotely, and will be safe to upgrade for several upcoming releases? Kind regards, --Toni++