Re: openbsd not blob free?

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From: Darrin Chandler
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010 - 9:01 am

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:32:47AM -0400, Kent Watsen wrote:

From the linked message:

"They're not happy about it, but a firmware blob isn't really any
different if it's loaded from disk where the OS can see it vs. baked
into a PROM on the card where the OS is unaware of it."

There it is in a nutshell. Do you only allow hardware with fixed
microcode, or do you allow the kernel to load it from a blob? What are
the practical and ideological differences?

Practical: microcode can be updated. Otherwise it's the same as burned
in microcode.

Ideological: non-free microcode is not free, whether it's burned in or
uploaded by the OS kernel. Take your gNewSense no-blob Linux distro and
put it on any computer you can find and you'll be running with non-free
microcode, starting with the CPU.

I don't pretend to know all the issues involved here, but I think what
I've said above is accurate as far as it goes. You can't turn on a
mainstream computer that is free of closed microcode: such computers
just don't exist.

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openbsd not blob free?, Kent Watsen, (Wed May 5, 8:32 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Otto Moerbeek, (Wed May 5, 8:44 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Matthew Szudzik, (Wed May 5, 8:52 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Nicholas Marriott, (Wed May 5, 8:54 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Matthew Weigel, (Wed May 5, 8:59 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Janne Johansson, (Wed May 5, 8:59 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Brad Tilley, (Wed May 5, 8:59 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Darrin Chandler, (Wed May 5, 9:01 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Dan Harnett, (Wed May 5, 9:05 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Peter N. M. Hansteen, (Wed May 5, 9:27 am)
Re: openbsd not blob free?, Eric Furman, (Wed May 5, 4:41 pm)