Re: crypt question/server hotel

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From: Robert
Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010 - 2:49 am

Jozsi Vadkan wrote:

1)
Even if you encrypt the whole disk and you have a remote console 
available (via serial port or KVM switch), you still will have to trust 
your provider that he doesn't sniff that traffic.

2)
If you can't detect a reboot of your machine because the attacker has 
"cleaned" the logs etc., then anybody with physical access can own the 
machine. I'm not aware of any way to prevent this.
(see also "cold boot attack", or simply creating a disk image and doing 
a brute force attack against the image)

3)
Your only chance might be to have a card in the machine (e.g. IBM RSA) 
that allows remote control. But the traffic to it will have to be 
encrypted (-> 1) and it has to detect if it was temporarily removed from 
the machine during a physical attack, and even then it needs to report 
this back to you. I don't know if there is any card out there that can 
provide this level of protection...

If you are really paranoid and the hacker type, then I guess you can 
hide a mobile phone inside the case, connect it via USB and have it 
constantly report the status (power, light sensor, GPS etc.).

In the end it is as usual a question of cost vs benefit. If your machine 
is *that* valuable then you shouldn't put it in an untrusted environment 
in the first place.

In your case I guess you should encrypt your data and have the machine 
email you if it reboots. Then you can login via SSH and enter the crypto 
key and start the "stage 2" applications that need the encrypted data.
You will have to trust your provider that he doesn't do any physical 
attacks (e.g. replace OS files).

kind regards,
Robert
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crypt question/server hotel, Jozsi Vadkan, (Sat Apr 17, 1:49 am)
Re: crypt question/server hotel, Antti Harri, (Sat Apr 17, 2:01 am)
Re: crypt question/server hotel, Robert, (Sat Apr 17, 2:49 am)
Re: crypt question/server hotel, Jacob Yocom-Piatt, (Sat Apr 17, 3:48 am)
Re: crypt question/server hotel, Jan Stary, (Sat Apr 17, 4:21 am)
Re: crypt question/server hotel, Scott McEachern, (Sat Apr 17, 8:23 am)
Re: crypt question/server hotel, Robert C Wittig, (Sat Apr 17, 10:49 am)