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Jim Lucas
azalia drivers (VIA HD Audio) generates constant tone
Setup: Install 1, I have a base install of 4.6 FINAL Install 2, Upgrade of Install 1 system to 4.7 CURRENT Issue: When the system boots the speaker output is generating a constant tone or buzzing sound from the moment that is loads the azalia driver. Things I tried: I can mute the tone by issuing the "mixerctl outputs.master.mute=on" command. I have tried different powered and non-powered speakers, plus head phones with no change in condition. Can anybody shed some light on the ...
Apr 16, 3:58 pm 2010
Jacob Meuser
Re: OpenBSD culture?
I've done a fair share of couch surfing and had my couches surfed ... since we're talking about guests, insults and contributions ... in the context of a, shall we say, "sharing" culture. the surfer is usually expected to contribute of some kind of kick down to the situation, provide some kind of help to keeping the situation going. after all, the surfer *is* getting quite a bit out of the situation, or he wouldn't be there in the first place. and if the situation isn't working out for the ...
Apr 16, 11:20 am 2010
J Sisson
Re: OpenBSD culture?
The point was that OpenBSD requires a primary partition.
Apr 16, 10:44 am 2010
trustlevel-two
Re: OpenBSD culture?
You can actually have MANY more than 4 OS on one drive, but it does get rather complicated and not worth the effort which certainly wouldn't help here. Guess it depends on your recent culture, I can recall many times when me and my mates would insult each other and put money on the table for pizza, though I've never asked them to pay for something I've cooked but If I had a house full of strangers who could cook what they wanted, I wouldn't last long footing the bill by myself and you ...
Apr 16, 9:28 am 2010
Ted Roby Apr 16, 11:27 am 2010
trustlevel-two
How secure is bsdauth with skey one time passwords, by itself.
Google turned up Races and dictionary attacks if the skey file is readable. I imagine dictionary attacks via bsd auth would be the only possible known attack on a properly setup system. I am intending to use it as a secondary line of defense but how secure would skey be as a primary defense. Are the hash algorithms perfectly adequate. Would sha1 or rmd160 be your choice. If a user had a shell via login or exploit and was able to raise priviledges to a different user via skey, and so could ...
Apr 16, 10:04 am 2010
Scott McEachern
Re: Routing on two Nic's
That's my favoured approach, but be careful: if you have monthly bandwidth caps, you could be looking for trouble. "Junk" filtered by the xDSL modem doesn't count against you. Using OpenBSD's pf to filter out the bad stuff *will* count against your b/w cap and you could find yourself paying for the overage. -- - RSM www.erratic.ca
Apr 16, 10:42 am 2010
Ted Roby
Re: Routing on two Nic's
Which router? The ADSL router? Can you configure it as a transparent bridge instead? Then you can let the OBSD box sit on the same subnet as the rest of your network, and it can handle whatever appropriate connection your provider wants. (PPPoE?)
Apr 16, 10:26 am 2010
Jacob Meuser
Re: Routing on two Nic's
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Setup.forward and please read the whole rest of the faq before asking further questions. it will save you and everyone else time. thanks. -- jakemsr@sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Apr 16, 10:23 am 2010
Danny de Bont
Routing on two Nic's
Hi guys, Forgive me if this was asked before (since the start of this group) :-), But I really need your help. I have been using OpenBSD since version 3.2 (thanks Theo and others) as a VERY Simple ftp,nfs,ssh,mail and http server for small business networks strictly on LAN only, no internet connection. During my free time. (Now I must just figure out how to get rich from OpenBSD, any tips?) I had no internet at home because I have access at work. Now, my lovely wife decided that we are ...
Apr 16, 9:54 am 2010
Christiano F. Haesbaert
Re: OpenBSD on FLISOL 2010
Cool, me too ! I'll be talking about mdns and a little bit about my mdns implementation (which is aimed at OpenBSD), Caxias do Sul, south of Brazil.
Apr 16, 9:45 am 2010
Andres Genovez
OpenBSD on FLISOL 2010
Hi everyone, I will be presenting OpenBSD on FLISOL on Cuenca-Ecuador, I will be talking about its philosophy, groups, security, and a little workshop. Any help will be very appreciated (papers, guidelines, etc) Sincerely Andres Bitfrvst -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Sistemas Elastix ECE - Linux LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945 Tecnologmas Cuenca, Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Esq. http://www.cspmsa.com Telifono. ...
Apr 16, 9:27 am 2010
Andres Genovez
Re: OpenBSD on FLISOL 2010
El 16 de abril de 2010 11:45, Christiano F. Haesbaert < Good Luck! -- Atentamente Andris Genovez Tobar / Sistemas Elastix ECE - Linux LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945 Tecnologmas Cuenca, Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Esq. http://www.cspmsa.com Telifono. 593-7-2842388 ext 408 Fax. 593-7-2842388 ext 120 Celular: 593-97670874 PIN BB: 258F58F4 Jabber: bitfrost@asgard.crice.org MSN: andresgenoves@msn.com Mail: ...
Apr 16, 9:47 am 2010
frantisek holop
LG android phone mass storage mount problem
hi there, i am trying to mount the mass storage on my LG GW620 android phone. ugen0 at uhub0 port 3 "LG Electronics Inc. LG Mobile USB Modem" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2 ugen0 detached umass0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "LG Electronics Inc. LG Mobile USB Modem" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2 umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0 probe(umass0:1:0): Check Condition (error 0) on opcode 0x0 probe(umass0:1:0): Check Condition (error 0) on opcode 0x0 sd0 at ...
Apr 16, 9:01 am 2010
Stuart Henderson
Re: advice on ssvnc + scrotwm
Not perfect, but this might be workable: Set ssvnc to fullscreen (F9) and then do 'escapekeys toggle' from the menu (F8).
Apr 16, 5:14 am 2010
LEVAI Daniel
Re: advice on ssvnc + scrotwm
Yes, thanks! In fullscreen mode ssvnc sends everything to the remote host. Great! Dani -- LIVAI Daniel PGP key ID = 0x83B63A8F Key fingerprint = DBEC C66B A47A DFA2 792D 650C C69B BE4C 83B6 3A8F
Apr 16, 5:41 am 2010
LEVAI Daniel
advice on ssvnc + scrotwm
Hi! While I am connected to another machine with ssvnc, I need to use the other hosts' wm's (which is scrotwm) hotkeys, bindings (like MOD+Arrow, MOD+q etc...). Both machines run scrotwm, and when I press the hotkeys, the local scrotwm always eats the keys. I can never send the keys binded locally to the other host. Is there a way in scrotwm to work around this, or do I just need to specify alternate bindings on the two hosts? Thanks! Dani -- LIVAI Daniel Digi Kft.
Apr 16, 4:25 am 2010
Eric Furman
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Is this the thread you are referring too?? http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=126478269117985&w=2 Because if that is it your feelings are hurt easier than a five year old girls. I had to look this up, because of your reaction I thought that someone must have really viciously launched into you with severe profanity and comments about your mother, ( I was even prepared to defend you if that was the case) but all I found was this. Some mild humor. And it wasn't even really directed at you, ...
Apr 16, 1:03 am 2010
damien.bergamini
Re: 4.7 and AR5007
| I've been having trouble with a 9285 in a low end Gateway | laptop/netbook. I've been tracking snapshots and it always locks up the | machine when I run 'ifconfig athn0 scan' after 5 seconds or so. Can not | switch to another terminal and can not log in over the network (fast | ethernet, re0, which does work fine) after it locks up. | | I have tried both amd64 and i386 and the issue is the same. Anything | else I can do to help whoever might be interested in fixing it? Are | snapshots ...
Apr 15, 11:54 pm 2010
Noah Pugsley
Re: 4.7 and AR5007
damien.bergamini@free.fr wrote: Thanks Damien and Stuart, your suggestions are so much cheaper than shipping to France. BTW, this was all done at the console, no X. I tried it with 'ifconfig athn0 debug' and the result is the same when I scan. After I run 'ifconfig athn0 scan' I can hit return for about 3 seconds before the machine hard locks. Thanks again, noah # ifconfig lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 33200 priority: 0 groups: lo ...
Apr 16, 9:03 am 2010
Ted Roby
Re: issues with audio on Apr13 snapshot
I can absolutely confirm I was not running aucat with mplayer. I was not attempting to allow audio from any other program, either.
Apr 16, 5:17 am 2010
Jan Stary
Re: issues with audio on Apr13 snapshot
So, when you play the same in mplayer and opera So mplayer is the only one talking to the audio device, and opera running simuktaneously doesn;t enter into it, IMO. I have experienced similar problems with mplayer when aucat was _not_ running. With aucat running, I never had that problem.
Apr 16, 12:12 am 2010
Markus Hennecke
Re: Thunderbird 3 still wont send even after new profile
I would suspect your smtp server (and Thunderbird 2). Here is why: It is known that Thunderbird 3 will no longer send mail if you entered an username and password and the server does not support smtp-auth. Tunderbird 2 does not care and tries to send anyway, and that is exactly the behaviour you described here. HTH, Markus Hennecke
Apr 16, 4:00 am 2010
Thomas Pfaff
Re: licensing
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0600 Yes, that is true. I believe we had a discussion about this with a certain individual not that long ago. In my view the ports tree merely contain /pointers/ to some non-free software which the user can choose to use or not. "There's non-free software /in/ the ports tree" was not entirely accurate.
Apr 16, 7:10 am 2010
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
Re: OpenBSD culture?
"NO RESTRICTIONS" May I point out to you that ISC has restrictions. You are contradicting yourself. Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract field, but apparently you did not study it.
Apr 15, 8:14 pm 2010
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
Re: OpenBSD culture?
If you assume that the definition of freedom is the number of restrictions, then neither ISC nor GPL are free. The only free license would be no license at all. Public domain. Since _my_ definition of freedom for software is different, I reach different conclusions. If a package does no restrict the way I use it, does permit me to study it and modify it, distribute copies either modified or verbatim, gratis or for a fee, then I consider it free, and I will use it. For me, having to give ...
Apr 15, 8:02 pm 2010
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Yes! Because they are all free (in _my_ opinion). I like GPL, ISC, BSD, all of them.
Apr 15, 8:05 pm 2010
VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
Re: OpenBSD culture?
For them? Maybe the freedom to give copies to their friends whithout being sued or doing anything illegal.
Apr 15, 7:39 pm 2010
Ted Roby
Re: OpenBSD culture?
sed '/nose/d' <face
Apr 16, 6:28 am 2010
Stas Miasnikou
Re: OpenBSD culture?
"It's not who we are underneath, it's what we do that defines us." (c) Stas
Apr 16, 6:06 am 2010
Donald Allen
Re: OpenBSD culture?
So you believe civility and correctness are mutually exclusive? Interesting.
Apr 16, 5:53 am 2010
Artur Grabowski
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Yet you still believe that it's ok for guests to tell the hosts how to behave in their home. Amazing. What culture are you from? //art
Apr 16, 1:16 am 2010
Tony Abernethy
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Hardly, but if I am given a choice, I will take correctness. You seem to be under the impression that either correctness is irrelevant or that somehow civility implies correctness. As for mutual exclusivity, seems like intelligence and your brain have said condition.
Apr 16, 6:36 am 2010
Donald Allen
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Your analogy doesn't go far enough. Better: guests in a home being One that values civility.
Apr 16, 5:20 am 2010
Ted Roby
Re: OpenBSD culture?
I'll take the racism as punful trolling. ;oP The cultures in the USA are diverse and usually based upon Geography. (mountain culture, desert culture, plains culture) The most innovative/radical/free-thinkers tend to gravitate towards the big cities, but it is a stereotype to even say they only gravitate "westward" (California) anymore.
Apr 16, 7:37 am 2010
Marc Espie
Re: OpenBSD culture?
yeah, you can also find culture in petri dishes, you know... ;-) (still more trolling) (how can one take this thread seriously ?) (yo, your momma used to suck dead Stallmans through straws) (GPL isn't free !!! soylent green is people !!!!)
Apr 16, 7:57 am 2010
André
Re: OpenBSD culture?
It's not about a COMMUNITY here. It's about an OS and good code. If you want am smooth, senseless coversation, a real community with always nice people living in harmony use ubuntu or fb. Andri --
Apr 15, 10:57 pm 2010
Tony Abernethy
Re: OpenBSD culture?
That means that you prefer systems that can do anything wrong just as long as they talk nice to you. Me, I prefer systems that actually work, and a wee bit of seeming rudeness is a very small price to pay.
Apr 16, 5:35 am 2010
Vijay Sankar
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Another take on this is that you are sliming your host (meaning developers), his/her friends, and all people who benefit from your host's work because you did not like what some unknown random person with a gmail address was saying in a public mailing list. And all this to support someone who demanded direct handholding from Theo and was complaining when politely asked to use the web!!! Regardless of your standards of etiquette that anyone may have violated, it is a shame that you would ...
Apr 16, 6:14 am 2010
Marc Espie
Re: OpenBSD culture?
Sounds like an US american, you know, the guys that went from farwest to utter complacency without ever becoming civilized. (what? trolling? is this thread serious now ? gimme a break).
Apr 16, 7:26 am 2010
Ted Roby
Re: OpenBSD culture?
You can't, if you take it correctly! At least pink noise sounds better than white noise. Hey, don't get all truthful now!!!
Apr 16, 8:10 am 2010
Stuart Henderson
Re: 4.7 and AR5007
Might be obvious but doesn't hurt to mention it... If you are doing this from inside X, switch to a text console first. If there's a panic message and X has the display, you won't see it.
Apr 16, 2:42 am 2010
Noah Pugsley
Re: 4.7 and AR5007
I've been having trouble with a 9285 in a low end Gateway laptop/netbook. I've been tracking snapshots and it always locks up the machine when I run 'ifconfig athn0 scan' after 5 seconds or so. Can not switch to another terminal and can not log in over the network (fast ethernet, re0, which does work fine) after it locks up. I have tried both amd64 and i386 and the issue is the same. Anything else I can do to help whoever might be interested in fixing it? Are snapshots new enough? I ...
Apr 15, 6:01 pm 2010
Owain Ainsworth
Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with ...
Do people read these logs ever before posting them? You have an error in your log file, i recommend you fix that before you continue further. -0- -- Churchill's Commentary on Man: Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on.
Apr 16, 9:49 am 2010
Owain Ainsworth
Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with ...
the ati driver that you require is not a kernel driver, but an X userland driver. that will not make a difference. -- Try to get all of your posthumous medals in advance.
Apr 16, 9:48 am 2010
J.C. Roberts
Re: licensing
Ted, 1.) A license declaration within a source file takes precedence over a license in an accompanying file. 2.) Even if you could trace how the file got into the Diku or Merc project, the author still holds the rights, so it makes no difference if he gave permission to the *_DIKU/MERC_project_* (or some member thereof) to include his work. Rights are reserved *UNLESS* granted, so nothing is forfeit by its inclusion with the DIKU/MERC project sources. 3.) Since an OpenBSD port can be ...
Apr 16, 1:30 am 2010
J.C. Roberts
Re: licensing
Of course you can ask, and if the port is both well done and well tested, then someone else might have enough interest to take the time to commit it. But of course, there are no guarantees. You'll never know if something is useful or interesting to others until Assuming a good port without caustic licensing, whether a port only lives on the ports@ list archives or lives in the official project ports tree, is highly subjective. You've showed up at a party where people are having fun. You ...
Apr 16, 1:25 pm 2010
Ted Roby
Re: licensing
No problem! Sounds like I had a good understanding of the procedure. I'd rather ask than ass-u-me. I don't expect anything to be favored unless it stands up on its own merit, and found useful. Now to just choose... Thanks list.
Apr 16, 1:46 pm 2010
Ted Roby
Re: licensing
What about a completely unrelated project? If I have clean licensing on everything, can I then ask for addition to the tree? Thanks for your time. I have had to work with some Copyright and NDA in my career. It sure is a mess....
Apr 16, 5:35 am 2010
Chris Dukes
Re: OpenBSD culture?
A couple of the Linux distributions automatically locate Windows partitions and add them to the boot loader menu while configuring the boot loader during configuration. Toss in a default install choice of "Automatically reduce the size of the Windows partition to be able to install Linux." For added joy. A few years ago if you bought a new PC you did not assemble yourself, you would find two primary partitions consumed on the harddrive. One for MS Windows. One for the recovery ...
Apr 16, 8:31 am 2010
Siju George
Re: OpenBSD culture?
means of selecting which OS is to boot. It is not a trivial task! If you don't understand what you are doing, you may end up deleting large amounts of data from your computer. New OpenBSD users are strongly encouraged to start with a blank hard drive on a dedicated machine, and then practice your desired configuration on a non-production system before attempting a multiboot configuration on a production machine. FAQ 14 has more information about the If he has already multi-booted Windows and ...
Apr 16, 2:56 am 2010
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