| From | Subject | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Jim Lucas | azalia drivers (VIA HD Audio) generates constant tone
Setup:
Install 1, I have a base install of 4.6 FINAL
Install 2, Upgrade of Install 1 system to 4.7 CURRENT
Issue:
When the system boots the speaker output is generating a constant tone or
buzzing sound from the moment that is loads the azalia driver.
Things I tried:
I can mute the tone by issuing the "mixerctl outputs.master.mute=on" command.
I have tried different powered and non-powered speakers, plus head phones with
no change in condition.
Can anybody shed some light on the ...
| Apr 16, 3:58 pm 2010 |
| Jacob Meuser | Re: OpenBSD culture?
I've done a fair share of couch surfing and had my couches surfed ...
since we're talking about guests, insults and contributions ... in
the context of a, shall we say, "sharing" culture.
the surfer is usually expected to contribute of some kind of kick down
to the situation, provide some kind of help to keeping the situation
going. after all, the surfer *is* getting quite a bit out of the
situation, or he wouldn't be there in the first place. and if the
situation isn't working out for the ...
| Apr 16, 11:20 am 2010 |
| J Sisson | Re: OpenBSD culture?
The point was that OpenBSD requires a primary partition.
| Apr 16, 10:44 am 2010 |
| trustlevel-two | Re: OpenBSD culture?
You can actually have MANY more than 4 OS on one drive, but it does get rather
complicated and not worth the effort which certainly wouldn't help here.
Guess it depends on your recent culture, I can recall many times when me and
my mates would insult each other and put money on the table for pizza, though
I've never asked them to pay for something I've cooked but If I had a house
full of strangers who could cook what they wanted, I wouldn't last long
footing the bill by myself and you ...
| Apr 16, 9:28 am 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Amen.
| Apr 16, 11:27 am 2010 |
| trustlevel-two | How secure is bsdauth with skey one time passwords, by itself.
Google turned up Races and dictionary attacks if the skey file is readable. I
imagine dictionary attacks via bsd auth would be the only possible known
attack on a properly setup system.
I am intending to use it as a secondary line of defense but how secure would
skey be as a primary defense.
Are the hash algorithms perfectly adequate. Would sha1 or rmd160 be your
choice.
If a user had a shell via login or exploit and was able to raise priviledges
to a different user via skey, and so could ...
| Apr 16, 10:04 am 2010 |
| Scott McEachern | Re: Routing on two Nic's
That's my favoured approach, but be careful: if you have monthly
bandwidth caps, you could be looking for trouble. "Junk" filtered by
the xDSL modem doesn't count against you. Using OpenBSD's pf to filter
out the bad stuff *will* count against your b/w cap and you could find
yourself paying for the overage.
--
- RSM
www.erratic.ca
| Apr 16, 10:42 am 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: Routing on two Nic's
Which router? The ADSL router?
Can you configure it as a transparent bridge instead?
Then you can let the OBSD box sit on the same subnet
as the rest of your network, and it can handle whatever
appropriate connection your provider wants. (PPPoE?)
| Apr 16, 10:26 am 2010 |
| Jacob Meuser | Re: Routing on two Nic's
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq6.html#Setup.forward
and please read the whole rest of the faq before asking further
questions. it will save you and everyone else time. thanks.
--
jakemsr@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
| Apr 16, 10:23 am 2010 |
| Danny de Bont | Routing on two Nic's
Hi guys,
Forgive me if this was asked before (since the start of this group) :-), But
I really need your help.
I have been using OpenBSD since version 3.2 (thanks Theo and others) as a
VERY Simple ftp,nfs,ssh,mail and http server for small business networks
strictly on LAN only, no internet connection. During my free time.
(Now I must just figure out how to get rich from OpenBSD, any tips?)
I had no internet at home because I have access at work.
Now, my lovely wife decided that we are ...
| Apr 16, 9:54 am 2010 |
| Christiano F. Haesbaert | Re: OpenBSD on FLISOL 2010
Cool, me too !
I'll be talking about mdns and a little bit about my mdns
implementation (which is aimed at OpenBSD), Caxias do Sul, south of
Brazil.
| Apr 16, 9:45 am 2010 |
| Andres Genovez | OpenBSD on FLISOL 2010
Hi everyone,
I will be presenting OpenBSD on FLISOL on Cuenca-Ecuador, I will be talking
about its philosophy, groups, security, and a little workshop.
Any help will be very appreciated (papers, guidelines, etc)
Sincerely
Andres
Bitfrvst
--
Atentamente
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Elastix ECE - Linux LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT
COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945
Tecnologmas
Cuenca, Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Esq.
http://www.cspmsa.com
Telifono. ...
| Apr 16, 9:27 am 2010 |
| Andres Genovez | Re: OpenBSD on FLISOL 2010
El 16 de abril de 2010 11:45, Christiano F. Haesbaert <
Good Luck!
--
Atentamente
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Elastix ECE - Linux LPI-1 - Novell CLA - Apple ACMT
COMERCIAL SALVADOR PACHECO MORA S.A. / DESDE 1945
Tecnologmas
Cuenca, Av. 27 de Febrero y Jacinto Flores Esq.
http://www.cspmsa.com
Telifono. 593-7-2842388 ext 408
Fax. 593-7-2842388 ext 120
Celular: 593-97670874
PIN BB: 258F58F4
Jabber: bitfrost@asgard.crice.org
MSN: andresgenoves@msn.com
Mail: ...
| Apr 16, 9:47 am 2010 |
| frantisek holop | LG android phone mass storage mount problem
hi there,
i am trying to mount the mass storage on my LG GW620
android phone.
ugen0 at uhub0 port 3 "LG Electronics Inc. LG Mobile USB Modem" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2
ugen0 detached
umass0 at uhub0 port 3 configuration 1 interface 0 "LG Electronics Inc. LG Mobile USB Modem" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 2
umass0: using SCSI over Bulk-Only
scsibus1 at umass0: 2 targets, initiator 0
probe(umass0:1:0): Check Condition (error 0) on opcode 0x0
probe(umass0:1:0): Check Condition (error 0) on opcode 0x0
sd0 at ...
| Apr 16, 9:01 am 2010 |
| Stuart Henderson | Re: advice on ssvnc + scrotwm
Not perfect, but this might be workable:
Set ssvnc to fullscreen (F9) and then do 'escapekeys toggle' from the menu (F8).
| Apr 16, 5:14 am 2010 |
| LEVAI Daniel | Re: advice on ssvnc + scrotwm
Yes, thanks! In fullscreen mode ssvnc sends everything to the remote
host. Great!
Dani
--
LIVAI Daniel
PGP key ID = 0x83B63A8F
Key fingerprint = DBEC C66B A47A DFA2 792D 650C C69B BE4C 83B6 3A8F
| Apr 16, 5:41 am 2010 |
| LEVAI Daniel | advice on ssvnc + scrotwm
Hi!
While I am connected to another machine with ssvnc, I need to use the
other hosts' wm's (which is scrotwm) hotkeys, bindings (like MOD+Arrow,
MOD+q etc...).
Both machines run scrotwm, and when I press the hotkeys, the local
scrotwm always eats the keys. I can never send the keys binded
locally to the other host.
Is there a way in scrotwm to work around this, or do I just need to
specify alternate bindings on the two hosts?
Thanks!
Dani
--
LIVAI Daniel
Digi Kft.
| Apr 16, 4:25 am 2010 |
| Eric Furman | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Is this the thread you are referring too??
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=126478269117985&w=2
Because if that is it your feelings are hurt easier than a five year old
girls.
I had to look this up, because of your reaction I thought that someone
must
have really viciously launched into you with severe profanity and
comments
about your mother, ( I was even prepared to defend you if that was the
case)
but all I found was this. Some mild humor. And it wasn't
even really directed at you, ...
| Apr 16, 1:03 am 2010 |
| damien.bergamini | Re: 4.7 and AR5007
| I've been having trouble with a 9285 in a low end Gateway
| laptop/netbook. I've been tracking snapshots and it always locks up the
| machine when I run 'ifconfig athn0 scan' after 5 seconds or so. Can not
| switch to another terminal and can not log in over the network (fast
| ethernet, re0, which does work fine) after it locks up.
|
| I have tried both amd64 and i386 and the issue is the same. Anything
| else I can do to help whoever might be interested in fixing it? Are
| snapshots ...
| Apr 15, 11:54 pm 2010 |
| Noah Pugsley | Re: 4.7 and AR5007
damien.bergamini@free.fr wrote:
Thanks Damien and Stuart, your suggestions are so much cheaper than
shipping to France. BTW, this was all done at the console, no X.
I tried it with 'ifconfig athn0 debug' and the result is the same when I
scan. After I run 'ifconfig athn0 scan' I can hit return for about 3
seconds before the machine hard locks.
Thanks again,
noah
# ifconfig
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 33200
priority: 0
groups: lo
...
| Apr 16, 9:03 am 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: issues with audio on Apr13 snapshot
I can absolutely confirm I was not running aucat with mplayer.
I was not attempting to allow audio from any other program, either.
| Apr 16, 5:17 am 2010 |
| Jan Stary | Re: issues with audio on Apr13 snapshot
So, when you play the same in mplayer and opera
So mplayer is the only one talking to the audio device,
and opera running simuktaneously doesn;t enter into it, IMO.
I have experienced similar problems with mplayer when
aucat was _not_ running. With aucat running, I never had
that problem.
| Apr 16, 12:12 am 2010 |
| Markus Hennecke | Re: Thunderbird 3 still wont send even after new profile
I would suspect your smtp server (and Thunderbird 2).
Here is why: It is known that Thunderbird 3 will no longer send mail if
you entered an username and password and the server does not support
smtp-auth. Tunderbird 2 does not care and tries to send anyway, and that
is exactly the behaviour you described here.
HTH,
Markus Hennecke
| Apr 16, 4:00 am 2010 |
| Thomas Pfaff | Re: licensing
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:52:55 -0600
Yes, that is true. I believe we had a discussion about this with
a certain individual not that long ago. In my view the ports tree
merely contain /pointers/ to some non-free software which the user
can choose to use or not. "There's non-free software /in/ the ports
tree" was not entirely accurate.
| Apr 16, 7:10 am 2010 |
| VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO | Re: OpenBSD culture?
"NO RESTRICTIONS"
May I point out to you that ISC has restrictions. You are
contradicting yourself.
Logic works the same for everyone, since it's an abstract
field, but apparently you did not study it.
| Apr 15, 8:14 pm 2010 |
| VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO | Re: OpenBSD culture?
If you assume that the definition of freedom is the number of
restrictions, then neither ISC nor GPL are free. The only free
license would be no license at all. Public domain.
Since _my_ definition of freedom for software is different, I
reach different conclusions.
If a package does no restrict the way I use it, does permit me
to study it and modify it, distribute copies either modified or
verbatim, gratis or for a fee, then I consider it free, and I
will use it.
For me, having to give ...
| Apr 15, 8:02 pm 2010 |
| VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Yes! Because they are all free (in _my_ opinion). I like GPL, ISC,
BSD, all of them.
| Apr 15, 8:05 pm 2010 |
| VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO | Re: OpenBSD culture?
For them? Maybe the freedom to give copies to their friends whithout
being sued or doing anything illegal.
| Apr 15, 7:39 pm 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: OpenBSD culture?
sed '/nose/d' <face
| Apr 16, 6:28 am 2010 |
| Stas Miasnikou | Re: OpenBSD culture?
"It's not who we are underneath, it's what we do that defines us." (c)
Stas
| Apr 16, 6:06 am 2010 |
| Donald Allen | Re: OpenBSD culture?
So you believe civility and correctness are mutually exclusive? Interesting.
| Apr 16, 5:53 am 2010 |
| Artur Grabowski | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Yet you still believe that it's ok for guests to tell the hosts how to
behave in their home. Amazing. What culture are you from?
//art
| Apr 16, 1:16 am 2010 |
| Tony Abernethy | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Hardly, but if I am given a choice, I will take correctness.
You seem to be under the impression that either correctness is
irrelevant or that somehow civility implies correctness.
As for mutual exclusivity, seems like intelligence and your brain have said
condition.
| Apr 16, 6:36 am 2010 |
| Donald Allen | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Your analogy doesn't go far enough. Better: guests in a home being
One that values civility.
| Apr 16, 5:20 am 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: OpenBSD culture?
I'll take the racism as punful trolling. ;oP
The cultures in the USA are diverse and usually based upon
Geography. (mountain culture, desert culture, plains culture)
The most innovative/radical/free-thinkers tend to gravitate
towards the big cities, but it is a stereotype to even say they
only gravitate "westward" (California) anymore.
| Apr 16, 7:37 am 2010 |
| Marc Espie | Re: OpenBSD culture?
yeah, you can also find culture in petri dishes, you know... ;-)
(still more trolling)
(how can one take this thread seriously ?)
(yo, your momma used to suck dead Stallmans through straws)
(GPL isn't free !!! soylent green is people !!!!)
| Apr 16, 7:57 am 2010 |
| André | Re: OpenBSD culture?
It's not about a COMMUNITY here. It's about an OS and good code.
If you want am smooth, senseless coversation, a real community
with always nice people living in harmony use ubuntu or fb.
Andri
--
| Apr 15, 10:57 pm 2010 |
| Tony Abernethy | Re: OpenBSD culture?
That means that you prefer systems that can do anything wrong just
as long as they talk nice to you.
Me, I prefer systems that actually work, and a wee bit of seeming
rudeness is a very small price to pay.
| Apr 16, 5:35 am 2010 |
| Vijay Sankar | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Another take on this is that you are sliming your host (meaning
developers), his/her friends, and all people who benefit from your
host's work because you did not like what some unknown random person
with a gmail address was saying in a public mailing list. And all this
to support someone who demanded direct handholding from Theo and was
complaining when politely asked to use the web!!!
Regardless of your standards of etiquette that anyone may have violated,
it is a shame that you would ...
| Apr 16, 6:14 am 2010 |
| Marc Espie | Re: OpenBSD culture?
Sounds like an US american, you know, the guys that went from farwest to
utter complacency without ever becoming civilized.
(what? trolling? is this thread serious now ? gimme a break).
| Apr 16, 7:26 am 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: OpenBSD culture?
You can't, if you take it correctly!
At least pink noise sounds better than white noise.
Hey, don't get all truthful now!!!
| Apr 16, 8:10 am 2010 |
| Stuart Henderson | Re: 4.7 and AR5007
Might be obvious but doesn't hurt to mention it...
If you are doing this from inside X, switch to a text console first.
If there's a panic message and X has the display, you won't see it.
| Apr 16, 2:42 am 2010 |
| Noah Pugsley | Re: 4.7 and AR5007
I've been having trouble with a 9285 in a low end Gateway
laptop/netbook. I've been tracking snapshots and it always locks up the
machine when I run 'ifconfig athn0 scan' after 5 seconds or so. Can not
switch to another terminal and can not log in over the network (fast
ethernet, re0, which does work fine) after it locks up.
I have tried both amd64 and i386 and the issue is the same. Anything
else I can do to help whoever might be interested in fixing it? Are
snapshots new enough? I ...
| Apr 15, 6:01 pm 2010 |
| Owain Ainsworth | Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with ...
Do people read these logs ever before posting them?
You have an error in your log file, i recommend you fix that before you
continue further.
-0-
--
Churchill's Commentary on Man:
Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the
time he will pick himself up and continue on.
| Apr 16, 9:49 am 2010 |
| Owain Ainsworth | Re: Xorg.conf with OpenBSD 4.6 macppc does not work with ...
the ati driver that you require is not a kernel driver, but an X
userland driver. that will not make a difference.
--
Try to get all of your posthumous medals in advance.
| Apr 16, 9:48 am 2010 |
| J.C. Roberts | Re: licensing
Ted,
1.) A license declaration within a source file takes precedence over a
license in an accompanying file.
2.) Even if you could trace how the file got into the Diku or Merc
project, the author still holds the rights, so it makes no difference
if he gave permission to the *_DIKU/MERC_project_* (or some member
thereof) to include his work. Rights are reserved *UNLESS* granted, so
nothing is forfeit by its inclusion with the DIKU/MERC project sources.
3.) Since an OpenBSD port can be ...
| Apr 16, 1:30 am 2010 |
| J.C. Roberts | Re: licensing
Of course you can ask, and if the port is both well done and well
tested, then someone else might have enough interest to take the time
to commit it. But of course, there are no guarantees.
You'll never know if something is useful or interesting to others until
Assuming a good port without caustic licensing, whether a port only
lives on the ports@ list archives or lives in the official project ports
tree, is highly subjective.
You've showed up at a party where people are having fun. You ...
| Apr 16, 1:25 pm 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: licensing
No problem! Sounds like I had a good understanding
of the procedure. I'd rather ask than ass-u-me.
I don't expect anything to be favored unless it stands
up on its own merit, and found useful. Now to just choose...
Thanks list.
| Apr 16, 1:46 pm 2010 |
| Ted Roby | Re: licensing
What about a completely unrelated project?
If I have clean licensing on everything, can
I then ask for addition to the tree?
Thanks for your time. I have had to work with some Copyright
and NDA in my career. It sure is a mess....
| Apr 16, 5:35 am 2010 |
| Chris Dukes | Re: OpenBSD culture?
A couple of the Linux distributions automatically locate Windows
partitions and add them to the boot loader menu while configuring
the boot loader during configuration.
Toss in a default install choice of "Automatically reduce the size
of the Windows partition to be able to install Linux."
For added joy.
A few years ago if you bought a new PC you did not assemble yourself,
you would find two primary partitions consumed on the harddrive.
One for MS Windows. One for the recovery ...
| Apr 16, 8:31 am 2010 |
| Siju George | Re: OpenBSD culture?
means of selecting which OS is to boot. It is not a trivial task! If you don't
understand what you are doing, you may end up deleting large amounts of data
from your computer. New OpenBSD users are strongly encouraged to start with a
blank hard drive on a dedicated machine, and then practice your desired
configuration on a non-production system before attempting a multiboot
configuration on a production machine. FAQ 14 has more information about the
If he has already multi-booted Windows and ...
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