Re: Buying ThinkPad for OpenBSD

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From: James Hozier
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 - 5:52 pm

I'm buying a new laptop specifically for OpenBSD but I want to make sure
everything is compatible first. Has anyone ever purchased the
ThinkPad T410?

CPU: Intel Core i7-620M Processor (2.66GHz, 4MB L3, 1066MHz FSB)
Screen: 14.1 WXGA+ TFT, w/ LED Backlight (WWAN antenna)
Graphics (avoiding nVidia): Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD - AMT
RAM: 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1067MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
HDD: 128 GB Solid State Drive, Serial ATA
DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim (Serial ATA)
Wireless: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (3x3 AGN)

My main concerns are compatibility issues with wireless (I'll probably
just use G, not N). I'm pretty sure Intel as the graphics is fine and I
think I've heard OpenBSD has SSD support. Everything else should basically
be good, right?

From: Scott McEachern
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 - 8:24 pm

Save yourself some grief:

1) get a $5 USB stick from $discount_store
2) install a OpenBSD on a bootable partition on the stick
3) boot the laptop into OpenBSD from the USB stick
4) examine the dmesg output, and save a copy

If you don't have physical access to the laptop (eg. buying online) then 
you're SOL and can only hope for the best.  I'm sure others here will 
point out that the "SuperCard 2000" might have the same packaging 
outside, but different chipsets inside.

Booting it and looking at a dmesg is the only way to know 100%.

-- 
- RSM
www.erratic.ca

From: James Hozier
Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 8:43 am

Is there an official guide somewhere for making
a bootable OpenBSD USB
drive? I have a 2GB USB drive my school gave me and I
never use it.

From: Floor Terra
Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 8:50 am

-- 
Floor Terra <floort@gmail.com>
www: http://brobding.mine.nu/

From: Matthias Guedemann
Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 9:08 am

The easiest is to go here:
http://liveusb-openbsd.sourceforge.net/

If you want to try a newer version than 4.6, you can follow the instructions
there using qemu.

From: STeve Andre'
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010 - 7:23 pm

http://openbsd.org/i386.html is always your friend in times like this
when you are looking for compatibility.

The video is the most problematic, but look at

http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=118237691812346&w=2

and I think its supported.  The wireless card should be under iwn(4).
Sound should be HD Audio , azaila(4) which is on my W500 Thinkpad
and its great.  I don't think N mode is supported, yet on wireless.

I'm not terribly happy with SSDs yet; some of the earlier units are
zappable with 100-400MHz RF--I've seen it.  Remember that 640G
disks are $100 at newegg right now.  SSD disks look like sata beasts,
and just work, at least they did for me.  But they're going to win 
out soon enough.

--STeve Andre' (OpenBSD thinkpad user since 2001)

From: Daniele Pilenga
Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 1:05 am

I have a Dell Studio 1558 with Core i5:

[...]
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz, 2394.46 MHz
cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz
[...]
cpu0: unknown i686 model 0x25, can't get bus clock
cpu0: EST: PSS not yet available for this processor

It works just fine, but the speedstep is not supported (yet) and after

Don't be so sure about Intel graphics, I have been said not all of the

Mine is a

iwn0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200" rev
0x35: apic 2 int 17 (irq 7), MIMO 2T2R, MoW, address 00:23:14:13:b8:00


As someone suggested, if you can try out a simple usb boot, before
purchase, by all means do.

HTH.

Ciao,
D.

From: Ted Unangst
Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010 - 8:56 am

The GMA 500 isn't supported, but it only comes with Atom CPUs.

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