Re: Jacek Books

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From: openbsd
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 12:33 pm

Im agree with you Aaron, but i bought his books on 14 september 2009, and
an other book on 14 october 2009.
If you want i can send you my Paypal receipts to prove it. I never received
the books.
It is a swindle ! nothing else ... And why sell books when nobody to
occupies his website? Even if he is ill, it is not a reason (he has to stop
selling ebooks)
Thank's

From: Corey
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:31 pm

Report him to PayPal.

Depending on the terms of his copyrights, it may not be legal for 
someone else to send you a copy of his works.  And if he is not 
responding to your personal emails, it is unlikely that posting on this 
list is going to help any further.

From: Lars Nooden
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:44 pm

Try going through his publisher.

/Lars

From: Bill Dunshie
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 9:51 pm

By posting regarding this situation, possibly it will help others from 
being swindled. I paid for the "Firewall Book", and as stated, did 
receive a few PDF's, but that's it, no paper copy. Going through PayPal 
is is waste of time, as their time limits have been exceeded many times 
over (my purchase was Feb 13, 2009) for filing a complaint, unless I'm 
mistaken.
When someone is ripping others off  left and right, who gives a hang 
about copyrights ? Were I not honest, I surely wouldn't; I'd get what I 
paid for any way I could. Alas, I guess I just lost out, as it's evident 
from the site that business is in full swing and payment is being
accepted by 2 methods. I guess I should have also noted that Artymiak 
was a Non-verified US vendor on PayPal.
Live and learn I guess, at times the very hard way. I really expected 
much more from Artymiak.


From: Scott Learmonth
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 11:52 pm

The real point in all of this is that, right or wrong, it doesn't belong on this mailing list.



From: J.C. Roberts
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:03 pm

Stop bitching and think.

1.) You do not have a name. You only have an email address.

2.) If your email address really indicates your location, then you are
on a tiny island *EAST* of Madagascar in the Indian ocean.

3.) Although the island or Reunion is technically part of France, and
hence technically part of the EU, most people believe GMT +0400 is
outside of the EU.

To put it bluntly, this is the very first time I have *EVER* seen the
".re" ccTLD being used.

Jacek is a good guy, but considering the above, most people selling
goods on the Internet would expect a scam. Your order probably got
caught up by automated scam filters in the order processing system
(e.g. an EU credit card being used with a seemingly non-EU shipping
address). This is unfortunate, but for you, it's a fact of life.

-- 

From: openbsd
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:03 pm

Hi,

I'm not agree with you.
Reunion Island is a DOM(overseas department), and we belong to European
Union.
We speek French, and pay in Euro.


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:03:29 -0800, "J.C. Roberts"

From: Robert C Wittig
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 3:57 am

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I've had a PayPal account for over 10 years, and in that time I have
purchased electronic media, like *.pdf files, which is what Jacek is
selling, quite a few times.

The payment arrives in the seller's PayPal account, and after a few days
(as opposed to a few months, as appears to be the case in this
situation) there is zero chance of the funds being unavailable to the
seller.

Usually, professional sellers of electronic media have the process
automated, sending an email to the purchaser, containing the URL for
download, and a unique login key/password, which is good for a limited
amount of time.

Jacek may be a good guy, and suspecting a scam is a sensible strategy,
but a responsible seller, who had received payment, would be wise to see
that his/her paying customers were well taken care of.

I sell artwork on my dotcom domain, which is a physical entity, as
opposed to electronic media, and which requires shipping, as opposed to
electronic delivery.

I receive both genuine and scam requests for purchase. It's pretty easy
to tell one from the other.



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http://robertwittig.net/
http://robertwittig.org/
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From: SJP Lists
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 1:06 am

I have been waiting too.  But I have heard people speak of Jacek being
ill a few times over the years, to the point that his publications get
delayed.  Leading me to think that he has something more serious than
a cold.

I'm concerned about his health first and foremost.  I'm looking
forward to the book but I don't want it hurried if the cost is his
health.


Shane

From: Otto Moerbeek
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 1:34 am

I agree that it is not good to pay and not receive anything.  So you
dispute the deal via the proper channels to get your stuff or your
money back. 

Breaking copyright law to get your goods is not the right way.

	-Otto

From: SJP Lists
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 4:26 am

I agree.  But for the record, I personally never suggested or
supported the idea that copyright infringement is a solution to this
problem.

In fact, I have worked in landmark copyright cases for one of the
Worlds most successful IP lawyers (and continue to do so).  Including
tendering evidence to court as a witness and being cross examined.

So for many reasons, I wouldn't dare.


Shane

From: ropers
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 7:11 pm

"IP lawyers", eh? Exactly what is this "IP" you speak of?

(SCNR.)

regards,
--ropers

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