Re: Donations

Previous thread: Re: Donations by James A. Peltier on Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 2:23 pm. (1 message)

Next thread: Re: Donations by Theo de Raadt on Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 4:56 pm. (1 message)
From: Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 3:32 pm

Being predictable is just not enough. Hardly You would enjoy predictibility of
You being put to prison on suspection of possibility of You commiting some
crime.

--
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

From: L. V. Lammert
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 3:38 pm

Actually, being predictable ALLOWS planning to avoid such problems!

Ever head of Don Quixote? THe moral of the storey - pick the battles you
have a chance of winning and avoid the rest.

	Lee

From: Jamie Paul Griffin
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 5:11 pm

if nothing else think about the charges they put on every transaction: you sell something on ebay, they charge you; you process their payment through paypal (ebay) they charge you again. they're clearly ripping us all us all off - fact! and to top it all of the charges have become extortionate.

From: Joe Barnett
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010 - 8:42 am

Perhaps everything should just be (lowercase) free?  No charge ever
for anything.  Heck, if that is how it worked, then this entire
discussion would not be taking place as OpenBSD would not need funds
to continue its operations (and in that sense I would be greatly
relieved, since I would likely have to hear less about Theo's
selective outrage.  Speaking of that outrage, I think it would be
great if he put his money where his mouth is and not accept US
dollars in support of OpenBSD... but I am not holding my breath).

But things are not free.  It takes commerce to produce nearly every
material good, as distasteful as that might be to some people.  It
is called business.  No one is forcing anyone to use ebay or paypal.
 If anyone wants to play in their marketplace, however, they must
play by the established rules.

From: Jamie Paul Griffin
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010 - 9:07 am

of course all things are not free, we're not bloody idiots. the point is their charges, in my opion, are excessive. 

From: SJP Lists
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010 - 9:18 am

sell something on ebay, they charge you; you process their payment through
paypal (ebay) they charge you again. they're clearly ripping us all us all off


From what has been said in the past, most donation money comes from
end user pockets and not big business or governments.  So the project
should snub US citizen donations because their government is corrupt?
All peoples under an unethical government should be treated as if
their governments secretive actions are all their fault?  I'd view
many US citizens as victims of that same government and given their
liberties deprived since 9/11, those who might get most benefit from
OpenBSD ought to be able to give back.

Theo did however protest US aggression, even while $2M of US fund
money was feeding the project.  Thankfully most of that cruise
missiles worth got used before it could be taken back.


Shane

From: ropers
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010 - 9:38 am

This thread is a great shibboleth, because it brings out the douchebags.
I have bookmarked this <http://marc.info/?t=129151986400001> page, for
future reference, for the purposes of douchebag identification.

Thanks,

--ropers

From: Kevin Chadwick
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 5:38 pm

On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:38:09 -0600 (CST)

Operation Chariot - Where british commandos accomplished an impossible
mission, with the help of code breakers, contributing to wwIIs greatest
battleship being nullified and without it sinking a single ship.

I'd say, forget chance, just make good choices of what and when.

From: Abel Abraham Camarillo Ojeda
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 6:39 pm

The moral of the story was that when you are left of all your objectives and
believings you suddenly die of sad and oldness. :P

From: fqui nonez
Subject: Re: Donations
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010 - 11:47 pm

It looks, like if the proper name of it is "cowardice", but Don
Quijote de La Mancha, shows how to distinguish reality!

--
           Agr. francisco Quinonez.
      "Our mission, feed the World"
   "notre mission, nourrir au monde"
 "Nuestra mision, alimentar al mundo"

Previous thread: Re: Donations by James A. Peltier on Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 2:23 pm. (1 message)

Next thread: Re: Donations by Theo de Raadt on Sunday, December 5, 2010 - 4:56 pm. (1 message)