hmm, on Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 07:09:03AM +0200, roberth said that
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> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:46:41 -0700
> patrick keshishian <pkeshish@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > as this, where --  the "mortal" is accused to be a whiner.
> 
> (...)
> 
> the key words were "every time this happens" ...
> 
> if you find an error or something strange, most likely you aren't the
> first to have encountered it.
> what's the first step? do your homework. homework comes before posting.
> this includes searching the mailinglist-archives.

and FAQ entry could help in this case as well..

-f

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