This will be my first purchase that is focused primarily on having only OpenBSD on it and nothing else to be used as a main workstation. The budget is around $900 or so. I'm looking for something with quality parts and probably have everything supported and compatible with OpenBSD straight out of the box (like the graphics/sound, wireless card, etc.) I've heard that most developers use Thinkpads. Which model would be a good suggestion?
A problem is that $900 isn't going to get you a thinkpad and a multi-year warranty. If you stay away from nvidia video, just about all the thinkpads are going to work with the ooccaisonal exception of the wireless card, and I'm not sure that hasn't shrunk a bunch, the ones that don't work. My W500 runs OpenBSD wonderfully. Looking at the Lenovo site I see a T500 with a 15" screen with *led* back light, 160G disk 2.4G core two something, intel wifi and intel graphics for $849. I don't know the status of the Intel graphics card, but you could get that, except it has a 1 year warranty. There are discounts if you can get it through an educational organization, etc. --STeve Andre'
If you get a Thinkpad stay clear of the SL300. It's cheap crap.
I suppose I should add to this. In order to compete with HP/Dell/Toshiba/Sony Lenovo had to come out with a low end series, the SL. Having used one for a few days I will say that the SL is better than its competitors, but still not as good as the W or T series Thinkpads. Note that you can increase the price of an SL by 50% and get a 3 year on site warranty, so Lenovo will back it up. The T, W and X series are the reliable units, with the X series being a little weaker in the physical ruggedness department. The R series seems to be best for desktop usage, somewhere between the SL and T/W in terms of reliability. --STeve Andre'
reliability. [...] [OT] I can contest the physical ruggedness thingy -- about an year and half ago, I had a nasty fall, and my X60 banged on the concrete floor on its lower right hand vertex. The fall was bad, because my backpack took my entire weight when I slipped sideways and fell down, with the Thinkpad vertext touching the ground first, followed by me. :-) It only sustained a break on that corner, and on the LCD top corner, but not a single functional issue has it developed since then. Sure, I have no data to backup the ruggedness of T and W, but I call *this* as reasonably rugged. [/OT] So yes, I also find the Thinkpads' to be a better option aesthetically, but that's just me. I have been running OpenBSD on X60 with "standard" configuration, and every necessary thing works just fine. Ah, but don't get the X60 since it has "known" heating issues in most configurations, where, due to poor ventilation, the wireless card heats up a lot, and your right palm faces the heat! X61 tried to fix it by having an additional fan (some configurations), and a exhaust vent on the right side. You can stick a USB cooling fan underneath, and it is okay. -Amarendra
The benefits of western world... ;) My e6400 cost me almost $4000 here in Ukraine. But i am very happy of that purchase, the notebook is great and everything is supported by OpenBSD. I can recommend that one to everyone, it's no worse than Lenovo stuff. -- The best the little guy can do is what the little guy does right
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:05:01 +0100 Probably not if you want clear title to the equipment, with warranty and support. Grey economy is not so good if you're cast as Caesar's Wife ;-)
Sometimes it's funny :-) There was a test in Czech Republic when some redaction of magazine purchased "black" version of Windows from China. To their surprise it was there in time, it had real phone/email support and there were patches which were available in official version after two months or so :-) On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Duncan Patton a Campbell -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
Just some update. People from west had (at least many of them) what they want. Here behind the iron Curtain it was very different. So people learned how to fight with it. And it's still used a lot because even after twenty years some problems still persist like idiotic 1 USD = 1 EUR and similar. Reagarding PC here are some pieces of history. Maybe people here may find it interesting :-) http://respekt.ihned.cz/english/c1-38540700-the-birth-of-czech-made-capitalis m http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAE$O http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_151 On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 3:04 AM, Duncan Patton a Campbell -- http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html
IMHO, the E6400 is too big to carry around often. Other than that it feels okay quality-wise. Do not get the edition with an NVIDIA graphics card, if you want, e.g., XV (overlay video) support (it requires their binary blob driver, which is only available for Windows, Linux and FreeBSD, AFAIK). The laptop's otherwise fast Core 2 Duo processor is not able to software scale videos to fullscreen smoothly.
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