On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
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> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 06:17:50AM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 01:54:54PM +0100, ropers wrote:
> > > 2009/12/19 Henning Brauer <lists-openbsd@bsws.de>:
> > > > any excuse to not know python is a good and valid one. any.
> > > 
> > > If you have the time, I'd love to hear you elaborate. So far most
> > > people whose opinion I value have only said good things about Python.
> > > You're the first person whose opinion I respect to go against that.
> > 
> > You just need to talk to more people, then. Lots of people don't like
> > Python. Same for Perl, Ruby, or anything else. I've heard several devs
> > say they don't like Python but I have yet to hear any of them actually
> > give a reason. Ask them why they don't like C++ and you get a big list
> > of everything that's wrong with it. Ask about Python and you get "it
> > sucks" or "it's awful" or something. So I think it's just a matter of
> > taste.
> > 
> > Or maybe Henning has actual reasons. I haven't heard him talk about
> > Python before so I don't know. Henning?
> > 
> 
> Ugh, a programming language where you can't copy paste from xterm to xterm
> without fucking up the program is just way to much pain to work on.
> The indenting of code is an optical help but should not change the
> behaviour of the program. For me it is important to be able to write code
> with style(9) in mind (and I think most other BSD developpers think
> similar because our code all looks similar).

I have often done copy/paste with Python code between xterms. Of course
you must fix indenting. If you naively copy/paste C you will also have
issues of syntax and meaning, but if you are so used to looking at C
code that the meaning in the new context is immediately obvious without
thinking then you will not notice. Instead you just fix/adjust it in
place and move on.

Some people will never like indent having meaning. But there is value in
having an 'else' that *looks* like it belongs with an 'if' actually
belong to that 'if', *because* it looks like it does. You don't ever
have to like Python, but indenting to make blocks is perfectly
cromulent. It's not a deficiency, it's just different.

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