Re: Security via the NSA?

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From: Marc Espie
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 2:25 am

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 05:42:48PM -0500, Samuel Baldwin wrote:

Anything can be backdoored. An agency that wants to do so would probably
be less obvious about it.

I don't know the current state of NSA mathematical research, obviously,
but it used to be THE biggest employer of mathematicians on the planet,
and there was a point when it had a considerable advance in cryptography
to about anybody else.

It's a well-documented story that the NSA suggested changes to the DES
initialisation vector before it became a standard.

Backdoor ? no.

Resistance to differential cryptanalysis ? you bet.

The fun thing about that is that, at that point, differential cryptanalysis
hadn't been invented... and wouldn't be for roughly ten years. For the
general public, that is.

I don't know if they still have this kind of advance. Probably less.


Good luck verifying the mathematics yourself, though.
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Security via the NSA?, Doug Milam, (Sat Nov 21, 12:29 pm)
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Re: Security via the NSA?, Samuel Baldwin, (Sat Nov 21, 3:42 pm)
Re: Security via the NSA?, Henning Brauer, (Sat Nov 21, 4:01 pm)
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Re: Security via the NSA?, Marc Espie, (Sun Nov 22, 2:25 am)
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