So I can't call a spade a spade?
Sorry buddy I don't do politics well.  If something sucks it is

perfectly ok to call that out.
I haven't even begun being harsh towards java and/or flash.
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 08:42:01PM +0000, n0g0013 wrote:

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> On 17.07-13:21, Marco Peereboom wrote:

> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:07:05PM +0000, n0g0013 wrote:

> > > On 17.07-10:13, Marco Peereboom wrote:

> > > [ ... ]

> > > > I am saying that each java app requires its own java runtime because the

> > > > previous/next version is incompatible.  Nothing new here.

> > >

> > > this is wrong.  java versions are largely compatible and most requirements

> > > are library problems, not runtime compatibility (although i believe

> > > distribution rights to core components would often restrict packaging

> > > for forward compatibility).

> >

> > I love your optimism.  Integration efforts I worked on for a large

> > company always required to drop 1 run time environment per app.  I

> > promise we tried really really hard to make that one.  This meant that

> > when a loaded box went out the door there were as many as 8 java

> > runtimes installed on your box.

> >

> > Spare me the "but my app is totally 1337 and doesn't need that"; it

> > simply doesn't apply to many scenarios.

>

> you are the first person in a long time to accuse me of optimism, i

> suppose i should thank you for that, but the statement was made from

> experience.  whatever your personal experiences i still maintain that

> your orginal statement was wrong, or at the very least, an extremely

> harsh assessment.

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