Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

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To: L. V. Lammert <lvl@...>
Cc: 'Ted Unangst' <ted.unangst@...>, 'Will Maier' <willmaier@...>, <misc@...>, Tony Abernethy <tony@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 7:10 pm

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:30:02AM -0500, L. V. Lammert wrote:

You don't get it, so I'll explain it.

There are a lot of packages in OpenBSD. We can spend time providing
stupid options like manually removing X, and then spend more time
testing, and testing again.

Each flavor you add has a cost: more tests. Either they're not done,
and then stuff breaks (because untested packages don't work, murphy's
law), or it detracts from more useful stuff.

Moving some X11 stuff to subpackages makes sense.

Creating some no_x11 stuff, *very* occasionally, makes sense.

Most of the time, it's a wast of time. It makes for more complicated
dependency trees, build errors, packaging errors, runtime errors.

We'd rather spend time doing valuable things.

You can very well install X on a production server. You don't have
to run it. If you're afraid it's going to hole your precious machine,
just remove the setuid binaries, it's darn simple, and it won't affect
package dependencies.

If you don't like the current situation, go run something else.

We have enough stuff to do already, we're not into adding knobs just
because it's neater.

There are huge amounts of useful modifications to do that are ways
more important than creating no_x11 flavors (and testing them).

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'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Tue Jul 15, 3:30 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Will Maier, (Tue Jul 15, 4:28 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Tue Jul 15, 6:51 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Marco Peereboom, (Tue Jul 15, 8:06 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Wed Jul 16, 10:32 am)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, bofh, (Tue Jul 15, 8:39 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Ted Unangst, (Tue Jul 15, 7:41 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Wed Jul 16, 3:08 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Landry Breuil, (Wed Jul 16, 3:54 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Don Hiatt, (Wed Jul 16, 3:53 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Marco Peereboom, (Wed Jul 16, 3:22 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Ted Unangst, (Wed Jul 16, 3:24 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Wed Jul 16, 10:27 am)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Tony Abernethy, (Tue Jul 15, 7:59 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Wed Jul 16, 10:30 am)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Marc Espie, (Wed Jul 16, 7:10 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Wed Jul 16, 8:41 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, bofh, (Wed Jul 16, 9:03 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Damien Miller, (Wed Jul 16, 8:52 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, L. V. Lammert, (Wed Jul 16, 9:11 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, William Boshuck, (Wed Jul 16, 1:44 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Ted Unangst, (Tue Jul 15, 8:11 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Damien Miller, (Tue Jul 15, 9:11 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Darrin Chandler, (Tue Jul 15, 8:50 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Ted Unangst, (Tue Jul 15, 9:51 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Jacob Meuser, (Tue Jul 15, 7:18 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Nick Guenther, (Tue Jul 15, 4:52 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Marc Espie, (Tue Jul 15, 5:30 pm)
Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2, Bernd Ahlers, (Wed Jul 16, 3:54 am)