Re: Anyone from this list at BlackHat or DefCon? And a query...

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To: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 12:07 am

Hi,

It would be a pleasure meeting folks on this mailing list, including
OBSD developers' at BH or DefCon. Thanks.

It is generally said that the BH or DefCon wireless network is
"hostile", and sane individuals must not use their laptop for the risk
of being compromised. My question is: if I use OpenBSD -current, with
not much additional configuration (apart from the Intel wifi
firmware), will the connection be reasonable secure? (Not sure if this
hostility is a publicity stunt). Thanks again.

-Amarendra

To: Amarendra Godbole <amarendra.godbole@...>
Cc: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Friday, June 27, 2008 - 4:32 am

Get a laptop with an Alpha chip and run OpenVMS :-)

Also, don't worry about BH. That is the one for types who need to burn
company or federal money set aside for training. Mostly just a bunch of
clueless douchebags with goatees and vendor schwag.

Randy

To: Amarendra Godbole <amarendra.godbole@...>
Cc: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:45 am

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Amarendra Godbole <

I look at "Intel firmware", and i go "oh." "BLOB." ;)

-jf

--
In the meantime, here is your PSA:
"It's so hard to write a graphics driver that open-sourcing it would not
help."
-- Andrew Fear, Software Product Manager, NVIDIA Corporation
http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228

To: Amarendra Godbole <amarendra.godbole@...>
Cc: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:27 am

The great majority of OpenBSD developers are from outside the United
States, and I would guess that most of us prefer not to visit the US now
thanks to the murderous foreign policy, authoritarian domestic
surveillance, and invasive border control. You'll find few of us there.

Personally I've been refusing invitations to go to, or even transit

While in general the Internet is a pretty hostile place, you probably
need to worry about local network attacks (sniffing, man-in-the-middle)
more than usual.

Don't trust DNS, and tunnel tunnel your outgoing connections out through
ssh or ipsec (look at the -D flag to ssh, and make sure that your
browser uses the socks proxy for DNS lookups as well)

This advice applies equally to any time you're on an untrusted network
(Internet cafe, Open wirless access point, etc)

To: Amarendra Godbole <amarendra.godbole@...>
Cc: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 7:34 am

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:07 AM, Amarendra Godbole

I'd also recommend that you take a laptop that contains nothing you
care about. Since if you do get hacked you won't lose anything of
value. I believe even Defcon's website recommends you bring a freshly
installed computer to save you from the hassle of losing things.

Certainly make backup's before you go. :)

--
# Curt Micol

To: OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:04 am

And make sure you have the fingerprint etc of every host you want to
connect to already on the laptop.
That way you will be warned in case of MITM attacks.

And I would generate ssh keypairs specially for the event and remove
them once you get home or leave there.

--

Michiel van Baak
michiel@vanbaak.eu
http://michiel.vanbaak.eu
GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x71C946BD

"Why is it drug addicts and computer aficionados are both called users?"

To: Amarendra Godbole <amarendra.godbole@...>, OpenBSD general usage list <misc@...>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 1:47 am

Just try ;-)

Better will be use -stable with block in all in pf.
Everything is about your settings and wants.
OBSD has good chance,that attacker will better leave.

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From: owner-misc@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-misc@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of
Amarendra Godbole
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:07 AM
To: OpenBSD general usage list
Subject: Anyone from this list at BlackHat or DefCon? And a query...

Hi,

It would be a pleasure meeting folks on this mailing list, including
OBSD developers' at BH or DefCon. Thanks.

It is generally said that the BH or DefCon wireless network is
"hostile", and sane individuals must not use their laptop for the risk
of being compromised. My question is: if I use OpenBSD -current, with
not much additional configuration (apart from the Intel wifi
firmware), will the connection be reasonable secure? (Not sure if this
hostility is a publicity stunt). Thanks again.

-Amarendra

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