Re: possible setup "bug" -- chose of default "a" partition can be wrong like if it is swap

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To: <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 11:54 am

If I have my "a" slice/partition is a "small" swap partition and my "c" slice
is a "large" BSD partition, setup should install to "c".
Or at least maybe prompt. Usually I want fewer prompts/questions, but..

I ran into this problem because Solaris setup encourages the swap
partition/slice to be first.
Luckily "a" filled up during setup and not later, so damage/pain was
minimized.

I realize the defaults in the install and the directions have you create the
BSD slice/partition as "a" so if you ignore Solaris you tend to get it right.

Any chance ever of a "swap file" instead of a "swap partition/slice"?

I'm sure this isn't a good "bug report", and debatable, so misc...

- Jay

To: Jay <jayk123@...>
Cc: <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 4:17 pm

a is / and b is swap. Yes, you can set it up other ways, but such
configurations are never tested and you will only ever confuse people
if you ask for help. So leave it the openbsd way.

To: Jay <jayk123@...>
Cc: OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 1:26 pm

On May 18, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Jay wrote:

solaris does this because it expands the installer into the swap

you're assuming that openbsd partitions need to be on the disk in

yes. if you don't assume that openbsd will work like <other OS> and

I"m _guessing_ that what you're trying to achieve ( unadvisedly ) is
to have a tiny swap partition at the beginning of the disk and a
single partition for the OS. I'm not going to bother preaching at you
about why this is bad, if you were interested in why you'd have
already taken the time to find out.

you can do this by creating the b (swap) partition first during the
install and then creating the a partition _physically_after_it_ on the
disk.

Luckily, you don't have to do it this way. you can simply follow the
instructions in the INSTALL.<platform> file and end up with a sane

Ben

To: Ben Calvert <ben@...>
Cc: OpenBSD Misc <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, May 18, 2008 - 2:45 pm

Ben, I did mix up which letter is which. I didn't mean to violate which one is
the entire drive. I was going from memory. That wasn't the point.
Yes, the first time I installed, I took the defaults, and it worked.
Then I tried to install Solaris. Then with that in recent memory, I tried to
be like it.

I know multiple partitions/slices/labels are encouraged, but the docs also say
one is ok, and I really don't like to "fragment" stuff like this. I don't want
to have to decide how much space I need for everything, and then have it be
very difficult to change later.
Granted, lately I'm wanting to share something, like maybe /home, across
multiple operating systems.

I didn't google for swap file, admitted.

I don't really care if the swap partition is at the start, I was just
following what Solaris had encouraged.
As for it being "tiny", well, yeah, with 512meg, 1gig, and more physical
memory, I don't see why swap should be much, certainly more than 512meg.

Subject: Re: possible setup "bug" -- chose of default "a" partition can be
wrong like if it is swap> Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:26:03 -0700> > > On May
"c" slice> > is a "large" BSD partition, setup should install to "c".> > you
should not use c for anything. it's the whole disk.> > >> > Or at least maybe
prompt. Usually I want fewer prompts/questions, > > but..> >> > I ran into
this problem because Solaris setup encourages the swap> > partition/slice to
and not later, so damage/pain was> > minimized.> > you're assuming that
openbsd partitions need to be on the disk in > alphabetical order. this is
to get > > it right.> > yes. if you don't assume that openbsd will work like
<other OS> and > actually read the docs you tend to be better off> > > Any
chance ever of a "swap file" instead of a "swap partition/slice"?> > yes. i
leave the googling up to you.> > > I'm sure this isn't a good "bug report",
and debatable,...

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