Yes, I "realise" that, and I'm not trying to offend...intentionally.. *sigh*... I'll stop posting, the developers have already made it clear to us end-users... "We'll provide you with a secure system, but.. hell, once you get it.. it won't be secure anymore, wait another 6 months, it'll be secure again. briefly." Frustration leads to insults and panic, Thus, here I am, expressing my humanity, I'm not a machine.. -Nix Fan.
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 12:00:44PM -0700, Unix Fan wrote: Are you human? I was going on the assumption that you were a made up character -- someone's parody of the demanding and entitled free software user. If that's not the case I'd suggest you speak only for yourself and not all end-users. -- Mike Small firstname.lastname@example.org
The developers provide a secure system that can be downloaded completely free of charge. If you want the system to remain updated with regards to patches, then you have to do the patching yourself. Note that the patches are also provided freely. What more do you want? Is it reasonable to expect any more? You're already getting quite a bit... The packages/ports might lag a bit from the base system. If you are that concerned about it, either lend a hand maintaining the packages important to you, or consider that perhaps OpenBSD is not the OS for you. You are not OpenBSD's target audience. The developers produce it for themselves. That you happen to be able to derive value from it should be considered as the generous gift it is, and treated as such. If you do not get enough value from it to make it worth using for you, then go find something else. There are plenty of other operating systems out there. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Ramaley Dial Center 118, Drake University Network Programmer/Analyst 2407 Carpenter Ave +1 515 271-4540 Des Moines IA 50311 USA
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Daniel A. Ramaley Well put, Daniel. I wholeheartedly concur.
I find it quite depressing that in the same email as expressing regret for offense, you do it again. You, sir, are far more often unhelpful than the converse. I suggest you look into that. -0- -- Abstainer, n.: A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Are you serious? Tell me, you read in some openbsd.org page, that openbsd it's a desktop os or projected to be a next dragonfly or pc bsd ?It's some ubuntu shit or opensuse ? It's made to be secure, it's prone to be installed on a server not just a fuckin desktop o.s. I follow -current and i'm happy because this O.S. give me what i'm looking for... What you say it's just stupid and polemic. OpenBSD staff it's little, dont have much time to do patch or to follows ports or all the packages for all releases, think about it.In every release you can be sure that your machine can be a good and powerful server. Dont blame other people, blame yourself. You cant follow -current or you cant patch for yourself firefox or other things? You just wait others to do what you can do ? So, change O.S. OpenBSD is not for you. Use mandrivia or ubuntu and dont piss off the programmers. My .02 cent Francesco. PS= Some times it's better to send an email just to thanks and not to blame. Shame on you.
Well, it depends. I use OpenBSD as a critical-mission server and as a common daily desktop. I'm very happy in both cases. A secure, funcional and free desktop, of course. -- Thanks, Jordi Espasa Clofent
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