Yes, I "realise" that, and I'm not trying to offend...intentionally..  *sigh*...

I'll stop posting, the developers have already made it clear to us end-users...

"We'll provide you with a secure system, but.. hell, once you get it.. it won't be secure anymore, wait another 6 months, it'll be secure again. briefly."

Frustration leads to insults and panic, Thus, here I am, expressing my humanity, I'm not a machine..



-Nix Fan.

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On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 12:00:44PM -0700, Unix Fan wrote:

Are you human?  I was going on the assumption that you were a made
up character -- someone's parody of the demanding and entitled free
software user.  If that's not the case I'd suggest you speak only
for yourself and not all end-users.

-- 
Mike Small
smallm@panix.com

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The developers provide a secure system that can be downloaded completely 
free of charge. If you want the system to remain updated with regards 
to patches, then you have to do the patching yourself. Note that the 
patches are also provided freely. What more do you want? Is it 
reasonable to expect any more? You're already getting quite a bit...

The packages/ports might lag a bit from the base system. If you are that 
concerned about it, either lend a hand maintaining the packages 
important to you, or consider that perhaps OpenBSD is not the OS for 
you. You are not OpenBSD's target audience. The developers produce it 
for themselves. That you happen to be able to derive value from it 
should be considered as the generous gift it is, and treated as such. 
If you do not get enough value from it to make it worth using for you, 
then go find something else. There are plenty of other operating 
systems out there.

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Dan Ramaley                            Dial Center 118, Drake University
Network Programmer/Analyst             2407 Carpenter Ave
+1 515 271-4540                        Des Moines IA 50311 USA

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On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Daniel A. Ramaley

Well put, Daniel. I wholeheartedly concur.

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I find it quite depressing that in the same email as expressing regret
for offense, you do it again. You, sir, are far more often unhelpful
than the converse. I suggest you look into that.


-0-
-- 
Abstainer, n.:
	A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a
pleasure.
		-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"

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Are you serious? Tell me, you read in some openbsd.org page, that 
openbsd it's a desktop os  or projected to be a next dragonfly or pc bsd 
?It's some ubuntu shit or opensuse ?
It's made to be secure, it's prone to be installed on a server not just 
a fuckin desktop o.s.
I follow -current and i'm happy because this O.S. give me what i'm 
looking for... What you say it's just stupid and polemic.
OpenBSD staff it's little, dont have much time to do patch or to follows 
ports or all the packages for all releases, think about it.In every 
release you can be sure that your machine can be a good and powerful server.
Dont blame other people, blame yourself. You cant follow -current or you 
cant patch for yourself firefox or other things? You just wait others to 
do what you can do ? So, change O.S. OpenBSD is not for you. Use 
mandrivia or ubuntu and dont piss off the programmers.

My .02 cent

Francesco.

PS= Some times it's better to send an email just to thanks and not to 
blame. Shame on you.

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Well, it depends. I use OpenBSD as a critical-mission server and as a 
common daily desktop. I'm very happy in both cases.

A secure, funcional and free desktop, of course.

-- 
Thanks,
Jordi Espasa Clofent

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