How to HIDE "OpenBSD" as user-agent? For security reasons it is sometimes interesting to hide GLOBALLLY th O.S. you are running on AGAINST GIVING ANY CLUE TO HACKERS ABOUT HOW TO ATTACK YOU. Not only browsing but globally. Thanks for any tip about this.
seen some pf.conf settings against remote OS detection at http://nmap.org/misc/defeat-nmap-osdetect.html#OPENBSD: ""The OpenBSD packet filter can also be configured to try to defeat remote OS Fingerprint.."" and at http://hackepedia.org/?title=Pf : "" # block nmap OS detection scans somewhat (-O) block in quick proto tcp flags FUP/WEUAPRSF block in quick proto tcp flags WEUAPRSF/WEUAPRSF block in quick proto tcp flags SRAFU/WEUAPRSF block in quick proto tcp flags /WEUAPRSF block in quick proto tcp flags SR/SR block in quick proto tcp flags SF/SF "" Any tips for a full pf.conf settings ? On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:18:38 -0600
Well since the OP wanted to block ALL user agents from absolutely everywhere and don't mind security by obscurity, may I suggest the following: block in quick all block out quick all That's as secure as you can get by going for obscurity, without turning off the computer!
I think unplugging the network cable(s) would be more secure.
What if the OP is on wireless? (Using WEP too! :O). I suggest they have the block all rules anyway, just to be safe... ya know, in case of a thunder storm, kids may not want to go outside, and start doing crazy things inside, such as plugging the network cable back in... -- This e-mail may be confidential. You may not copy, forward, distribute, or, use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it from your system and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. The sender does not accept liability for any errors, or, omissions. Note, this text has no effective legal binding on your part. There is no obligation to abide any or all parts of this, just as any texts appended to e-mail on rest of the Internet. For more information about disclaimers, please see: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
Write your own TCP/IP stack. But please read all the other replies before you do so. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:30 PM, macintoshzoom
This is an obscurity hack and an all round bad idea.
If you REALLY must do this (dunno why) enjoy hacking the code of anything
you find on you're box that can be used as a network client.
Have fun :D
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, macintoshzoom <macintoshzoom@lavabit.com>
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-- Dr. SeussYes it's an obscurity hack, but that doesn't make it a bad idea in general. When I'm browsing from my work computer I'm very easy to trace anywhere in logs because of the OpenBSD, KDE and Seamonkey combination. From a security point of view it's plain stupid, but regarding privacy the question isn't a bad idea. +++chefren
Now this idea: I don't have an issue with. For HoneyPot systems, obviously, you want to "Attract attention", you setup attractive, known buggy user agent strings and the like for other services. Then watch who attempts. For Silent Lurker systems, you want an obscure response to thinks like the HTTP User Agent string but if you use things like Opera, Firefox, or Apple's Safari, You could select a false User-Agent string to send. For other "Services" the Silent Lurker is going to respond to, you could be more obscure: Like not send anything at all... But then Again. I would tend to use the Silent Lurker method "If" I was surfing for 'Pr0n' but instead I just use an expendable Windows 2000 system running firefox *"With Delete everything when done"* setting turned on in a PF'ed DMZ lan segment, logged in as administrator (with full rights) with a machine name of IDONTCARE or something like that. When it goes Zoop, I ghost a copy back over. _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212
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Sorry about the previous cross post,... sorry been working 37hours straight and forgot to check.
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in my opinion this is ridiculous. no, wait, it is a troll.
cel
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IIRC privoxy does what you want. On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, macintoshzoom
In hopes of preventing your ending up singed and blackened around the edges... On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, macintoshzoom It is not. As pointed out on these lists countless times now, attackers will throw everything they have and see what (if anything) makes it through. They don't care how they break in, all they want is to use your systems to their ends. Do everyone a favour and stop believing in security through obscurity. Cheers, Rogier -- If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there.
Do you really think that obscure things make them more secure? One more thing, don't cross post! Doing that, you are a serious candidate to be flamed. Pedro
Step 1: don't post what OS you use to *four* mailing lists.. Step 2: ermm, you didn't post enough useful information to suggest a step 2.
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, macintoshzoom Has people still not learned anything about security through obscurity? No need to shout or cc all the mailing lists please.
Which of course is bullshit, since the last 10+ years. They will attack you, OpenBSD or not. What matters is not if you claim to be windows95 or not, but if you in fact are vulnerable or not. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
I don't know, but I do know that cross-posting all over the place does not help to solve your problem. -Otto
First, I find it hard not to think this is a troll. Second, please don't cross post to nearly every OpenBSD list. Third, security through obscurity and all that.... _sigh_ jim
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