Re: What is our ultimate goal??

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To: Mayuresh Kathe <kathe.mayuresh@...>
Cc: OpenBSD-Misc <misc@...>, Kenneth R Westerback <kwesterback@...>
Date: Monday, February 18, 2008 - 9:45 am

On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 10:11:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

If we stop allowing downloads people will just cvs themselves a tree
and build releases themselves.

If we stop people cvs'ing themselves the source we cease to be a
free software project.

If we cease to be a free software project I and most other
developers would leave.

If we all left the project would be over and there would never be a
chance to implement the changes you want.

I for one would love to see a cage match between you and the equally
vocal complainers who can't understand why we make life hard for
them by not providing a raft of downloadable ISO images of our CDs.
Maybe the entire crowd would end up groggy enough to actually read
the goals of the project on the web and accept them or move on.

For the groggy: http://openbsd.org/goals.html. Points 1, 2, 8 and 12
in particular.

.... Ken

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What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 8:03 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Tue Feb 19, 7:46 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Tue Feb 19, 8:50 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, knitti, (Thu Feb 21, 9:52 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, bofh, (Thu Feb 21, 10:43 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Miod Vallat, (Thu Feb 21, 11:18 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Fri Feb 22, 10:01 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jacob Meuser, (Fri Feb 22, 3:43 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Douglas A. Tutty, (Fri Feb 22, 5:04 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Siegbert Marschall, (Sat Feb 23, 4:42 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Ted Unangst, (Tue Feb 19, 5:29 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Tue Feb 19, 11:17 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Wed Feb 20, 3:22 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Tue Feb 19, 9:28 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, mcb, inc., (Sun Feb 17, 2:58 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, John Nietzsche, (Mon Feb 18, 7:25 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Gregory Edigarov, (Mon Feb 18, 5:14 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jussi Peltola, (Sun Feb 17, 6:55 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 7:16 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Sun Feb 17, 1:53 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 2:53 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 3:46 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 3:58 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 4:32 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jason Dixon, (Sun Feb 17, 4:22 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:34 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Siegbert Marschall, (Sun Feb 17, 7:19 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Todd Alan Smith, (Sun Feb 17, 3:53 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 4:09 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, ropers, (Mon Feb 18, 5:35 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Sun Feb 17, 6:13 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 4:06 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 4:12 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 4:52 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:37 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 6:12 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 7:01 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Kenneth R Westerback, (Sun Feb 17, 4:55 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:41 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Mon Feb 18, 10:27 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jussi Peltola, (Mon Feb 18, 10:30 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Gordon Grieder, (Mon Feb 18, 10:13 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Kenneth R Westerback, (Mon Feb 18, 9:45 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Siegbert Marschall, (Sun Feb 17, 7:27 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Leonardo Rodrigues, (Sun Feb 17, 10:27 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:46 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Mon Feb 18, 10:31 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Tue Feb 19, 9:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Leonardo Rodrigues, (Mon Feb 18, 2:35 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, System Administrator, (Mon Feb 18, 4:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 5:43 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Sun Feb 17, 3:34 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 3:49 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 6:04 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Sun Feb 17, 6:34 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Han Boetes, (Mon Feb 18, 2:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Mon Feb 18, 9:43 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Edd Barrett, (Sun Feb 17, 6:33 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, John Alan Shirley, (Sun Feb 17, 6:28 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Claudio Jeker, (Sun Feb 17, 5:59 pm)
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Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Han Boetes, (Sun Feb 17, 12:54 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 1:02 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jacob Meuser, (Sun Feb 17, 1:42 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Sun Feb 17, 10:30 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, bofh, (Sun Feb 17, 11:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Stuart Henderson, (Sun Feb 17, 8:14 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 8:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 12:06 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Balmer, (Sun Feb 17, 4:25 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Stuart Henderson, (Sun Feb 17, 9:07 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 1:24 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 9:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Michael Dexter, (Sun Feb 17, 9:53 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 10:10 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Markus Hennecke, (Sun Feb 17, 2:05 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:12 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Mon Feb 18, 7:44 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 11:22 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:42 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, System Administrator, (Sun Feb 17, 11:20 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Mon Feb 18, 3:15 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Sun Feb 17, 5:31 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 5:52 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Mon Feb 18, 7:42 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Mon Feb 18, 7:48 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Alexander Hall, (Tue Feb 19, 4:07 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Tue Feb 19, 6:39 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Douglas A. Tutty, (Tue Feb 19, 9:20 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Ingo Schwarze, (Sun Feb 17, 12:03 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Sun Feb 17, 10:50 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 11:18 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:26 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 11:29 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Mon Feb 18, 7:37 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Tony Abernethy, (Sun Feb 17, 8:20 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, openbsd misc, (Sun Feb 17, 8:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:54 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, openbsd misc, (Mon Feb 18, 4:03 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 9:19 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 8:32 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Henning Brauer, (Wed Feb 20, 7:28 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Wed Feb 20, 7:56 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, ropers, (Thu Feb 21, 3:35 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Thu Feb 21, 3:45 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Rod Whitworth, (Thu Feb 21, 4:28 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Henning Brauer, (Wed Feb 20, 8:22 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Wed Feb 20, 8:44 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Joel Sing, (Wed Feb 20, 10:04 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Henning Brauer, (Wed Feb 20, 9:14 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Wed Feb 20, 10:00 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Wed Feb 20, 12:02 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Fergus Wilde, (Wed Feb 20, 9:53 am)
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Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Stuart Henderson, (Wed Feb 20, 9:39 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Pau Amaro-Seoane, (Wed Feb 20, 8:49 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jordi Espasa Clofent, (Wed Feb 20, 8:52 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Tony Abernethy, (Tue Feb 19, 12:07 am)