What is our ultimate goal??

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To: OpenBSD-Misc <misc@...>
Date: Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 8:03 am

Hi,

NOTE: No intention to behave like a troll.

I've been following the "multi-threaded ssh/scp" thread and read Ted's
comment that he's stopped working on the kernel threads code because
he doesn't have the time for it nor does he need it any more.
Also that multi-threaded ssh/scp would weaken security features within the OS.

It just led me to ponder, what is OpenBSD's ultimate goal?
Is it just to become the worlds most secure OS with as few remote
holes in the default install?
Shouldn't it also be our goal to be the best UNIX-like operating
system which is in tune with the current needs of users?

It would have been great to have a threaded kernel, there are
developer's I'm gathering around who wanted to change the TCP/IP stack
to make it higher performance, more like "Project FireEngine" under
Solaris 10.

OpenBSD is an OS with amazing security and stability, but it has too
few modern features.

It would be great if developers also start working on improving the
features currently offered by OpenBSD.
Else, we would end up becoming the world's most secure OS which is
used by just a handful of us faithful users.

You might ask what right do I have for this rant, what am I doing for OpenBSD?
Well I can't donate code directly as I'm a Java programmer and my C is
quite rusty (haven't coded in it in over 7 years).
But, yes, I do donate my time and money, indirectly, by recruiting
good C developers to the cause as well as buying stuff for core
developers off their wish lists.

Hope newer features get added, not that I'm unhappy with the OS (it
does almost everything I need an OS to do for me), but it would be
great if we had *more* smart developers and a wider base of good users
who get attracted to the OS for its robustness as well as feature-set.

Best,

~Mayuresh

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What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 8:03 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Tue Feb 19, 7:46 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Tue Feb 19, 8:50 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, knitti, (Thu Feb 21, 9:52 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, bofh, (Thu Feb 21, 10:43 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Miod Vallat, (Thu Feb 21, 11:18 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Fri Feb 22, 10:01 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jacob Meuser, (Fri Feb 22, 3:43 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Douglas A. Tutty, (Fri Feb 22, 5:04 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Siegbert Marschall, (Sat Feb 23, 4:42 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Ted Unangst, (Tue Feb 19, 5:29 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Tue Feb 19, 11:17 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Wed Feb 20, 3:22 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Tue Feb 19, 9:28 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, mcb, inc., (Sun Feb 17, 2:58 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, John Nietzsche, (Mon Feb 18, 7:25 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Gregory Edigarov, (Mon Feb 18, 5:14 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jussi Peltola, (Sun Feb 17, 6:55 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 7:16 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Sun Feb 17, 1:53 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 2:53 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 3:46 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 3:58 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 4:32 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jason Dixon, (Sun Feb 17, 4:22 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:34 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Siegbert Marschall, (Sun Feb 17, 7:19 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Todd Alan Smith, (Sun Feb 17, 3:53 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 4:09 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, ropers, (Mon Feb 18, 5:35 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Sun Feb 17, 6:13 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 4:06 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 4:12 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 4:52 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:37 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 6:12 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 7:01 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Kenneth R Westerback, (Sun Feb 17, 4:55 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:41 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Mon Feb 18, 10:27 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jussi Peltola, (Mon Feb 18, 10:30 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Gordon Grieder, (Mon Feb 18, 10:13 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Kenneth R Westerback, (Mon Feb 18, 9:45 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Siegbert Marschall, (Sun Feb 17, 7:27 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Leonardo Rodrigues, (Sun Feb 17, 10:27 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:46 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Mon Feb 18, 10:31 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Tue Feb 19, 9:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Leonardo Rodrigues, (Mon Feb 18, 2:35 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, System Administrator, (Mon Feb 18, 4:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 5:43 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Sun Feb 17, 3:34 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 3:49 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 6:04 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Sun Feb 17, 6:34 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Han Boetes, (Mon Feb 18, 2:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Mon Feb 18, 9:43 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Edd Barrett, (Sun Feb 17, 6:33 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, John Alan Shirley, (Sun Feb 17, 6:28 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Claudio Jeker, (Sun Feb 17, 5:59 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Sun Feb 17, 5:51 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Han Boetes, (Sun Feb 17, 12:54 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 1:02 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jacob Meuser, (Sun Feb 17, 1:42 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Sun Feb 17, 10:30 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, bofh, (Sun Feb 17, 11:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Stuart Henderson, (Sun Feb 17, 8:14 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 8:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 12:06 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Balmer, (Sun Feb 17, 4:25 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Mon Feb 18, 12:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Stuart Henderson, (Sun Feb 17, 9:07 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 1:24 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 9:31 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Michael Dexter, (Sun Feb 17, 9:53 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 10:10 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Markus Hennecke, (Sun Feb 17, 2:05 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:12 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Mon Feb 18, 7:44 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 11:22 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:42 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, System Administrator, (Sun Feb 17, 11:20 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Mon Feb 18, 3:15 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Sun Feb 17, 5:31 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 5:52 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Mon Feb 18, 7:42 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Mon Feb 18, 7:48 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Alexander Hall, (Tue Feb 19, 4:07 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Tue Feb 19, 6:39 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Douglas A. Tutty, (Tue Feb 19, 9:20 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Ingo Schwarze, (Sun Feb 17, 12:03 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, William Boshuck, (Sun Feb 17, 10:50 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 11:18 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:26 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Zbigniew Baniewski, (Sun Feb 17, 11:29 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marc Espie, (Mon Feb 18, 7:37 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Tony Abernethy, (Sun Feb 17, 8:20 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, openbsd misc, (Sun Feb 17, 8:36 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, David Higgs, (Sun Feb 17, 11:54 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, openbsd misc, (Mon Feb 18, 4:03 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, raven, (Sun Feb 17, 9:19 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Sun Feb 17, 8:32 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Henning Brauer, (Wed Feb 20, 7:28 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Wed Feb 20, 7:56 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, ropers, (Thu Feb 21, 3:35 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Thu Feb 21, 3:45 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Rod Whitworth, (Thu Feb 21, 4:28 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Henning Brauer, (Wed Feb 20, 8:22 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Mayuresh Kathe, (Wed Feb 20, 8:44 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Joel Sing, (Wed Feb 20, 10:04 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Henning Brauer, (Wed Feb 20, 9:14 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Marco Peereboom, (Wed Feb 20, 10:00 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, chefren, (Wed Feb 20, 12:02 pm)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Fergus Wilde, (Wed Feb 20, 9:53 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Janne Johansson, (Wed Feb 20, 9:38 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Stuart Henderson, (Wed Feb 20, 9:39 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Pau Amaro-Seoane, (Wed Feb 20, 8:49 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Jordi Espasa Clofent, (Wed Feb 20, 8:52 am)
Re: What is our ultimate goal??, Tony Abernethy, (Tue Feb 19, 12:07 am)