Re: New tcp stack attack

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To: Claudio Jeker <cjeker@...>, misc <misc@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 - 10:46 am

On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 03:58:22PM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote:
| On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 03:31:00PM +0200, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
| > On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 14:52 +0200, Leon Dippenaar wrote:
| > > Hi there,
| > >
| > > is there any weight to this new story on slashdot
| > > http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/10/01/0127245.shtml
| > >
| > > about a new attacker possible to break any tcp stack? Sounds rather
| > > shady, so here I am, perhaps you guys have your ears closer to the
ground
| >
| > A little bit less vage info can be found here
| >
| > http://tinyurl.com/3hv3kf
| >
|
| This article is mostly about exploiting SYN cookies to bring servers into
| resource starvation. OpenBSD does not implement SYN cookies. We have a SYN
| cache with a upper limit of open handshakes. Together with random initial
| sequence numbers it is hard to finish the 3-way handshake without getting
| the SYN/ACK from the server on OpenBSD systems.

So far, I've heard about issues with TCP *after* a session has been
established (ie, after the 3-way handshake). Somehow exploiting TCP
state timers to affect badness (DoS), maybe.

I agree with Claudio that very little is public so far (I don't eat
cereals, but I believe the same is true for my jar of peanutbutter).

For now, it's all *extremely* vague.

Cheers,

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

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New tcp stack attack, Leon Dippenaar, (Wed Oct 1, 8:52 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Jussi Peltola, (Wed Oct 1, 11:56 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Wed Oct 1, 10:13 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Fernando Gont, (Wed Oct 1, 11:24 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Wed Oct 1, 11:41 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Fernando Gont, (Wed Oct 1, 12:26 pm)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Peter J. Philipp, (Wed Oct 1, 12:56 pm)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Sunnz, (Fri Oct 3, 12:18 pm)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Fernando Gont, (Wed Oct 1, 1:31 pm)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Peter J. Philipp, (Wed Oct 1, 2:11 pm)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Brian Keefer, (Wed Oct 1, 10:37 pm)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Stephan A. Rickauer, (Wed Oct 1, 9:31 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Claudio Jeker, (Wed Oct 1, 9:58 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Paul de Weerd, (Wed Oct 1, 10:46 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Duncan Patton a Campbell, (Wed Oct 1, 10:22 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Dries Schellekens, (Wed Oct 1, 10:47 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Dries Schellekens, (Wed Oct 8, 7:12 am)
Re: New tcp stack attack, Alexander Sabourenkov, (Wed Oct 1, 10:44 am)