On 01/07/08 18:15, Richard Stallman wrote:

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>     So... 'ethically' the TiVo ma as well be a circuit, since users don't

>     usually install software on it?

>

> Users did install software on it, and that's why Tivo tivoized it.

So...
Your intentioned thinking that gNewSense is clear holds up while if

the Tivoly guys defend their product against what they as creators

clearly think of as misuse of the product, that doesn't count?
I might have an interesting thought for you: Almost all more or less

complicated chips these days have more and more software on them, as

you showed you know. That software is clearly intended to make those

chips non-hackable from outside because of various reasons.
I now start presuming this all is strongly against your standards,

those chips are "tivolized" and the buyers of the chips should demand

hackable versions of the software?
Or will it be handled in GPLv4?
+++chefren