On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Richard Stallman wrote:
>    IMO, a big part of the problem here is that when you say "recommend" in

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>    this context what you actually mean appears (based on the discussion

>    here) to be something that most people would express as "not

>    deliberately erect barriers against".

>

>The evidence of this discussion shows that's not a good description

>for what I am saying.

You've apparently been reading a very different set of responses from

the ones I've read.  AFAICT from their messages, most of the people

responding here to this issue agree with me.
>                       Many of the people on this list were told that

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>I want OpenBSD to "erect barriers against" installing non-free

>programs.

That's the only plausible conclusion I can draw from your own words.

AFAICT from your messages, the absolute minimum that would satisfy you

is for OpenBSD to never mention anywhere, in any manner (except perhaps

a negative one), anything which is non-free (by your definition).

Since this would require explicitly rejecting any proposed addition to

the ports collection which would install something which is 'non-free',

you do require erecting barriers.
>           And their words show that they think this means designing

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>the system so that installing non-free programs is impossible.  (I

>have not suggested such a thing.)

>

>My usage of the "recommend" fits in normal usage.

Sorry, but that's nonsense.  "Mentioning" and "recommending" are very

different things, and what OpenBSD does is no more than mentioning.
>                                                   If you include

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>program FOO in a list of programs that could be installed, implicitly

>that recommends installing FOO as an option for people to consider.

>

>Perhaps "implicitly recommend" would be a clearer description of this

>particular case.

It would be closer to reality, but would still massively overstate the

case.
	Dave
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Dave Anderson