> Perhaps you're *USING* these 4 files to install the adobe flash player

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> on your machine (your example a little bit later in this mail seems to

> indicate you have at least installed it). That's non-free software

> you've installed, but you are free to do so. Then, to you, those four

> small files are not so useless, are they ?

>

Okay, I didn't install it. But it's like saying 'There is no proof

that the Makefiles won't work unless at least one person has installed

them and verified". In any case, I put forward the argument that the

Makefiles are useless because no single person has reported a

successful install with them. BooHoo!
> But you're not complaining that these (FREE) files are useless.

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> There's almost 5000 ports in the tree now, you are not using them all

> (you're not even using all the ports for free programs) so there's a

> lot more to complain about if that was your gripe. I've made an effort

> to reply to your argument but we were discussing the free-ness of

> OpenBSD, not the usefulness. Please stick to the subject and do not

> try to divert the discussion to unrelated matters.

No, i'm talking about the usefulness of your supposedly free (and

useful) makefiles in installing nonfree software.
>

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> Here's a nice trick. On any OpenBSD system simply do the following :

>

>         ftp http://tinyurl.com/83kyc

>

Have you performed the above step too? Shame on you for using

Microsoft PowerPoint .. or whatever it is you people use.
> Et voila ! You now have non-free software on your system. It is the

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> Microsoft PowerPoint Viewer (it's gratis (doesn't cost money) but it's

> not open source). You did this with free software (ftp from OpenBSD) !

> Ohnoes ! That software (OpenBSD ftp) isn't free, I can use it to

> download non-free software !

>

> Boohoo. Now explain again how this makes OpenBSD any less free.

>

> After your 'make install' in /usr/ports/www/opera-flashplugin, *YOU*

> have installed libflashplayer.so on your system. Why does that make

> OpenBSD any less free ?

>

Like I already replied to someone: They put a cigarette pack in

OpenBSD with the warning: 'Smoking causes Cancer'. They say it's there

but you're not supposed to smoke it. It's not going to harm you unless

you smoke it. Do you see the analogy?
--

Karthik

http://guilt.bafsoft.net