On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:13:25PM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
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> On Jan 6, 2008 4:25 AM, Gilles Chehade <gilles@evilkittens.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 01:42:16AM +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> > > > Firmware are not free enough when they have a license that does not
> > > > allow them to be redistributed with the system.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You are talking of free as in freedom and not price, right? If the
> > > whole point was to avoid paying $$$ in OpenBSD, my bad.
> > >
> >
> > What has money to do with this ?
> > You sound like you have issues understanding, so I will make it as simple
> > as I can, please take the time to read a few times, and make sure you get
> > it, before replying to this mail:
> >
> >         - vendor A sells hardware that requires a firmware
> >
> >         - OpenBSD wants to support that hardware and needs the firmware
> >                 to be shipped, say in /etc/firmware/, to have the
> >                 hardware work out of the box
> >
> >         - vendor A says "if a customer wants the firmware, he must go
> >                 to out website and fill a registration form online".
> >
> >         - OpenBSD does not ship the firmware because it is not free
> >                 enough.
> >
> > See ? This is an example, it is unrelated to money, and you still failed
> > to show us ONE point where we don't stick to our goals.
> >
> 
> So registration form = non-free. You failed to prove how it was not
> free. I asked if it required OpenBSD to pay money to a vendor, or the
> issue was about something else besides the money. I don't see the
> registration form being a problem here. Maybe they might simply take
> down your name and address for contact details or whatever. I don't
> see why a registration form must be non-free here.
> 

It's not me that fails to prove anything, it's you that fails to
comprehend simple logic:

if OpenBSD wants to provide support for a software, BUT the required
firmware requires USER to fill a form, how can OpenBSD ship the
firmware ?

Think for a just a second.

-- 
Gilles Chehade