On Jan 6, 2008 1:22 AM, Jacob Grydholt Jensen <grydholt@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 05/01/2008, Karthik Kumar <karthikkumar@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > I use ports. I am not dumb. :P The goals do not specify "to encourage
> > people to use
> > non-free software", but I see that happening anyway.
>
> And so what? I think you were trying to prove that OpenBSD were not
> living up to their goals. Instead you are repeating what RMS started
> out with. Try actually showing us one of OpenBSD's goals that the
> project is not following.
>
> > Your own claims?
> >
> > 1. (Try to be the #1 most secure operating system). Google for adobe
> > flash player vulnerabilities.
>
> What are you on about? As people have tried to explain again and
> again, OpenBSD does not ship with adobe flash player. Did you
> understand the "Secure by Default" mode?
>

Secure by default. Ship with nothing and call it secure. Wow! Maybe it
shouldn't start the network by default, huh? Then that's secure, isn't
it? Start no daemons, start no shells: ZOMG!!! it's secure :P

OpenBSD got pwned a year ago with another remote hole. I hope they
find enough so they can stop bragging about 'Secure by default'.

Do you realize that many people just can not live with 'default'?
Look: people do "use" OpenBSD for things other than plain old fvwm
with xterm. And keeping security as a goal is not just for a stupid
dubious marketing campaign.

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> Jacob Grydholt
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