On Jan 5, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

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> Yes. But even if it's legally redistributable, the question remains

> wether it's free software or not.

>

> Fortunately OpenBSD is Free Software. Unfortunately it recommends and

> distributes proprietary software on it's servers (and it wasn't

> because

> some user wrote some text on a wiki page).

"Recommends?" Where does it "recommend?" Please, show me a single URL

where OpenBSD "recommends" software that's not in the base system.
If you said "makes available" I'd probably not bothered having

responded to your ongoing drivel.
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> Only if they were using it like those sissy pseudo-fans of Free

> Software

> which changed to Apple MacOS X just because it's "unix" (erms...) and

> pretty, and works and has the apps.

>

> That is: they'd use it without any soul.

Actually, I like OS X just fine. "non-free" and all. As a workstation,

it's hard to beat. Especially since fighting to make KDE or GNOME

"just work" for me in all aspects I need has proven tiresome and

annoying.
Darwin, for what it's worth, is just as 'free' as Linux or gNewsense.

Due to some licensing by Apple, parts of it are not as "free" as

OpenBSD.
Then again, I know I don't have a soul. I like stuff that "just works"

with out having to "fight to make it work."
> There needs to be "soul" into the decision, or else it's just like

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> choosing clothing. Does she use OpenBSD because she wants to use a

> Free

> Software operating system? If so, what have you done to help her get

> rid

> of her dependency on proprietary software?

Explain "soul." As in "be a 'soul' into the decision."  I see you whip

another four letter word out, and I suspect it may have a different

meaning, much like your odd definition of "free." For what it's worth,

I've always interpreted OpenBSD's usage of "free" as "Free as in

Liberty." You're "free" to take it, change it, make it your own, and

do what you want. You're also "free" to not return your contributions

to a derivative to OpenBSD.
So far, nothing you've said that I've read has related to this

definition of "free." It's always "Free as in Costs Nothing," "Free as

in Comes Without Warranty," and "Free, except not really free."
> All I can speak for, is for myself: if I use OpenBSD because I like

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> its

> feature set, and if I deploy it as I can... that's the kind of user

> you

> want to go away? I'd say you're better off cancelling the project,

> if it

> depended on you.

Actually, I think the "Go Away" was more of a "shut up you silly

little wanker." That doesn't stop you from being in the userbase, it's

just a nice way to ask you to keep your trap shut until you have

something really useful to say.