On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 08:47:16AM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:

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> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:53:30AM +0000, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:

> > On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 05:49:42PM -0600, Gilles Chehade wrote:

> > > Why didn't you answer my mail Rui ?

> > > You are a troll.

> >

> > Either I did and you missed it, or it wasn't the answer you'd expect or

> > I found it so irrelevant it didn't even raise any bell.

> >

>

> You have not answered at all, you have answered to other people so that

> you could dodge my embarassing question instead of explaining why it is

> different to do the exact same thing when you are from the FSF.

I'm not from the FSF.
> According to YOU, it is okay to have emacs and gcc run on a proprietary

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> system as it allows more people to run free software. How is it that it

> is wrong to allow more people to run a free system by giving them links

> to proprietary software if it encourages them to keep their free system

> instead of switching to a proprietary one ?

1) ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/ isn't "links"

2) using more free software is better than not running it at all

3) incentivating usage of non-free software on free software operating

   systems doesn't incentivate the creation of free software replacements

4) FYI I think the wine project is counter-productive as it enables

   running non-free software on free software operating systems, and as

   such de-incentivates the creation of replacements.

4.1) but it's free software and its authors have their own independence.
> By providing emacs and gcc for windows you encourage people to run just

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> a few free applications with proprietary system and (many) tools, while

> we just give people the freedom to install a proprietary application on

> top of a free system with free tools. 

Look, OpenBSD is aggressive enough that people who "need" such non-free

software likely won't even run it on OpenBSD, so what you're saying is

that to the convenience of a few people who don't care for freedom of

all users, you distribute non-free software.
> > Anyways, most of your emails have been so rude that in afterthought I

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> > shouldn't even "honour" you with a reply.

>

> I try hard to keep my emails insult-free, saying that they are rude for

> helping you avoid embarassing questions is what makes you a troll. Just

> like your friend Stallman, you play on words and act like a victim if a

> person points at the flaws in your reasonning, grow up.

No, I am a victim and your (generically, not specifically you) attitude

actually makes my relation with OpenBSD very frustrating.
Rui
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